Raven

Yeah, well, that was the whole idea of the character is he didn't, like, deep down he didn't care, but he really did care.

He cared so much that it hurt so that he would block it out, which was me, you know, which is what I did.

Yeah, Raven was me times 100, you know.

And, yeah, but unfortunately, like, the character started out, art imitated life, but then life started to imitate art.

And that's when things got really bad.

Remember the first like scary chair shot you took?

Or are they not bad in the moment?

They're not bad in the moment.

No, they really don't.

They don't hurt that much.

What?

I mean, they don't.

Your forehead's the hardest part of your head.

You guys are taking them straight to the head in ECW.

Yeah, yeah, but that's the part that doesn't hurt.

Right here is the hardest part of your body.

Is anybody at that point in time putting their hands up?

Yeah, some guys were, but then they'd get chastised by the rest of the locker room.

The smartest thing ever, and it's such a great spot, is Sabu used to take the chair and he'd throw it at you.

which not only could you make it make a great clattering sound and make it fly off,