Raven

You know, that was always one of my favorite.

I find that if you, once you reach 40 years old, 40 to 50, you stop listening to current music and you start listening to the stuff you listened to when you were 10 or 12.

Yeah.

And so I went back to that, you know, and so I listened to a lot of, you know, the OJs and the Spinners.

I can relate.

I always say this.

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

Yeah.

Right?

And music is like this straight shot of like it takes you back to a place and a time.

Exactly.

And I feel like your look worked so perfectly at that time because think of all the bands that were like hitting it at that time.

Nirvana was big, Green Day, Soundgarden, like you said.

you were representative of that at the time and it just worked so well in ecw and i feel like that with that look comes an attitude as well yeah was that the attitude you already had or was that part of the character and well which cat which part of the cat which which attitude which part of the ad it was almost like you didn't care the raven character

Yeah, well, that was the whole idea of the character is he didn't, like, deep down he didn't care, but he really did care.

He cared so much that it hurt so that he would block it out, which was me, you know, which is what I did.

Yeah, Raven was me times 100, you know.

And, yeah, but unfortunately, like, the character started out, art imitated life, but then life started to imitate art.

And that's when things got really bad.

Remember the first like scary chair shot you took?