Raven

The crucifix with Sandman was just for him to feel my pain.

You know, because Raven was always... I considered him a martyr for society's dysfunction.

When you were told you had to go out there and apologize, how did you feel about that?

I didn't like it because, to me, if you're the extreme promotion...

Even if you cross, they expect you to cross the line at some point.

And if you're going to come up to the line all the time, that's great.

But if you cross it, you shouldn't go and apologize because you're the extreme promotion.

The extreme promotion wouldn't apologize.

But because Paulie's Jewish and Todd's Jewish and my last name's Levy, you know, with a name like that, people just assume I'm Jewish.

And my family is, but I never followed the faith.

But it's neither here nor there.

So I could see how people would mistake it as religious beating down on Christianity.

But it had nothing to do with that.

It was a metaphor.

Raven considered himself a martyr for society's dysfunction.

And now he was making Sandman feel his pain.

And so that's why I was really excited about putting him up on the cross.

He even built it for me.

Yeah, I said, Sandman, you got to build this.

I can't build a cross.