Raven

because nobody could believe that he would come out, that he was going to be working there.

And the first time he came out, I was sitting in the corner with Kimona, and he came out, and it was the biggest pop in company history.

And it was cool, because the way the arena is, the seats open, the entranceway,

the people had got all clogged in so nobody could see who was coming.

They just heard the music.

And they kept pulling, peeling back, peeling back as he went, you know, it opened up.

And it was like, it was peeling back the people and to reveal Gordy and he hits the ring and runs the ropes like he does.

And the place went wild.

It was crazy.

And so that, my match with Rhino at WWE in Backlash, which I think is probably the best hardcore match up until that point.

In history, I think.

I mean, Rhino did so much.

I can't believe he dove into a shopping cart.

Like, I don't know how he fit, you know?

That's a great point.

He's so huge, and he still fit in the shopping cart.

It was crazy when he gored it.

What else?

How many 24-7, or sorry, how many hardcore championships did you win?

39.