Ray Gutierrez
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But this is like old school talk, like early 2000s, like pre-Britney Spears internet.
I'm like, ah, good old HTML.
So talk about that desire to kind of break the rules and learn more.
You kind of that's kind of like your North Star till this day.
Even if it upsets you, you just want to make something pretty.
Besides silence?
Yeah, I clean when I'm in a bad mood.
I just start cleaning.
I do the dishes.
I just get really angry.
I lock in.
Actually, that headphones on is when I'm editing.
I'm completely locked in.
And everything needs to go away.
Talk about your outfits and talk about how you're expressing yourself just beyond the norm.
Sure.
Yeah.
Well, what's your first memory, you putting one thing, the other thing together and going, ah, it's pretty.
Like, how old were you when you started, like, on your path of creation?
Oh, yeah, I'd put on massive hair gel on my hair and pretend I was Elvis Presley in front of my grandmother.