Ray Gutierrez

You know what I mean?

Like, it's really awesome that you are who you are and you just, I've learned so much about you in your interview and that,

I'm like, no, dude, that town is... Fuck, Tulsa, Oklahoma is fucking cool.

Yeah, it is.

There's amazing energy and people shit in Oklahoma for all the wrong reasons.

And it's like, dude, get your head out of the bay in Miami.

There's a lot of pure magic happening in the center of this country that people need to enjoy express.

Which is what you're doing every day with your... What's it called?

You've got a whole...

You've made a place, which is fun to land on.

For sure.

But I will.

All in due time.

Yeah, I guess my point of my whole rant was I spent so much time and energy in the Bay with folks and engineers and dream weavers fabricating the platforms we use today.

And all they've been trying to do is recreate the feeling I got living in Oklahoma.

Yeah.

No, those breadcrumbs you figured yourself.

Right on.

Oh, gosh.

I feel like we can export so many other podcasts from this one.