Ray Gutierrez

I get it.

I get it.

Yeah.

So what's that like for you coming from that, but just being colorful and like...

Understanding the rules, but not quite following them.

Part of my part of my friendship, but there's a well-known book called Learn How Not to Give a Fuck.

yeah written by a really well-known entrepreneur yeah yeah yeah just like here's how you just live your life without having to worry that it's not the end of the world and that everything is not about you and everything is about you but just understand about energy and the divine and all that good fun stuff

I completely hear you, but coming from the Miami noise, being born and raised here, and then moving to a town where some folks have never left, and they're just like Bible-beating Christians.

I was so enamored by the fact that it was almost like stumbling into a village that they've never seen technology.

It was just like, wow, these people truly exist.

great.

But it was Tulsa and then Sperry.

It is a little different.

I speak of it now, so in such a positive light, I was in a very toxic relationship at the moment, as anyone is living in Tulsa for a year, but I speak of it now, years later, and I can't help but feel your energy from that past, but in a really divine...

Happy healing wing?

It's been a very bizarre couple hours for me.

I needed to take that moment and just have that honesty with you on camera.

I'm very familiar with what's happening energy-wise with the people, with the creativity.

A lot of folks out there are stuck or don't think they can get out when really they can.

I don't know why I'm going on this tangent.