Ray Gutierrez

How does your journey begin?

Guys, I don't even know where to begin.

It doesn't get more American than that.

It relates to when I'm having a bad day.

Yeah.

Aware and legal.

Talk about, like, coming from that, like, that visual culture of the zeitgeist of what it's like to be an attorney in the original first colonies.

And it's like, wow, it's epic and dark and gothic.

We see it in movies.

It's been glorified, romanticized.

And here you are in pink.

Mm-hmm.

Talk about the birth of whatever we think it is and then versus what it really is day to day.

Yeah.

sparkles and color and just keep that personality and the practice of wall absolutely so it's it's really important to me oh when you when you are actually sparkly and pink we're very much red here i've got my colors everyone's got their tribe everyone's got their team everyone's got their flag do you do you kind of know that you're going to attract the right clientele or are you going to unattract clients that you don't even want like what's your philosophy here of the of the of the sparkly pink

For sure.

Right on.

Like who is who is giving the common thread when it comes to your clients?

Who is your go to clients or the folks that you relatively see all the time?

I thank you very much.