Ray Gutierrez

You've made a place, which is fun to land on.

For sure.

But I will.

All in due time.

Yeah, I guess my point of my whole rant was I spent so much time and energy in the Bay with folks and engineers and dream weavers fabricating the platforms we use today.

And all they've been trying to do is recreate the feeling I got living in Oklahoma.

Yeah.

No, those breadcrumbs you figured yourself.

Right on.

Oh, gosh.

I feel like we can export so many other podcasts from this one.

Gosh, how can people find you and list out all your .coms and your social media handles so folks can access over you?

I feel like if you go, come to Bella Bluffs and it's yours, it's just like Bella Bluffs already sounds like Moulin Rouge, something over the top, like a cabaret.

Like, I love what you're all about, but Bella Bluff should be an alter ego that you do in this location.

But think about it that you recognize the fact that under this different name now you're being looked upon.

Exactly.

Oh, yeah, embrace it or face it.

Which is why with your brands and my brands, it's like AI will come and go.

We're just going to use AI to help us ascend and create new jobs for new folks that are just a little more advanced than us.

Mm-hmm.