Ray Gutierrez

It was just like, wow, these people truly exist.

great.

But it was Tulsa and then Sperry.

It is a little different.

I speak of it now, so in such a positive light, I was in a very toxic relationship at the moment, as anyone is living in Tulsa for a year, but I speak of it now, years later, and I can't help but feel your energy from that past, but in a really divine...

Happy healing wing?

It's been a very bizarre couple hours for me.

I needed to take that moment and just have that honesty with you on camera.

I'm very familiar with what's happening energy-wise with the people, with the creativity.

A lot of folks out there are stuck or don't think they can get out when really they can.

I don't know why I'm going on this tangent.

You know what I mean?

Like, it's really awesome that you are who you are and you just, I've learned so much about you in your interview and that,

I'm like, no, dude, that town is... Fuck, Tulsa, Oklahoma is fucking cool.

Yeah, it is.

There's amazing energy and people shit in Oklahoma for all the wrong reasons.

And it's like, dude, get your head out of the bay in Miami.

There's a lot of pure magic happening in the center of this country that people need to enjoy express.

Which is what you're doing every day with your... What's it called?

You've got a whole...