Raymond Ibrahim

What does that tell you?

You've got a long history in the grassroots movement.

You've got a real finger on the pulse for really drives Texas politics.

What does that take?

Because five years ago, you wouldn't have heard that.

I mean, what does that tell you about and particularly people want to do it?

Hey, because they're afraid to do it maybe in a more of a community setting, et cetera.

But when they got somebody one on one, they'll open up about it.

What does that tell you as someone who's had your finger on the pulse of Texas politics for many decades?

No, go ahead.

Keep going.

Joanne, hang on for one second.

I'm going to hold you through a break.

Joanne Fleming is with us, Grassroots America.

We the People, one of the largest grassroots organizations in the state of Texas and the United States of America.

And of course, one of the greatest experts, living experts on all things radical Islam.

That would be Raymond Ibrahim, who joins us from Budapest.

A short break.

Back in a moment.

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