Rebecca (Producer)
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Welcome to the shit show. Things are going to get weird. It's your fave villain, Kale Lowry. And you're listening to Barely Famous. Today I have a writer from OK Magazine, Becca. Welcome to Barely Famous Podcast. Thank you for having me. Yeah, of course. So today we want to talk about It Ends With Us, Colleen Hoover, Justin Baldoni, and Blake Lively. And I loved the book. I loved the movie.
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but it wasn't to me, that's not how I took it. Right. It was like, the message is that you have, you, you can leave, you can get out of the cycle. You can, it ends with us. Right. Like that is the message, not about who she is as a person. It's about having the strength to leave a really toxic situation.
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And I will say that Colleen Hoover and her books have – they were a huge reason – that I got back into reading because I think one of the first books that I read was a Colleen Hoover book. Me too. You know, to sort of jump off on my reading journey. And so that's really important to me, but also being a survivor of domestic violence myself, I really resonated with the story.
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I just wonder too, just from an ethical and moral standpoint is at the point that you realize there is problem after problem after problem. And he said, she said on set at what point, I mean, I understand there are millions of dollars involved and I get that, but it had already been prolonged for so long and it had already had to stop because of the writer's strike or whatever the case was.
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When there are this many issues and the allegations to this level, at what point did Sony have a responsibility to put a halt to all production because of some of these allegations? If what Blake Lively is saying is true, then should Sony be slapped with a lawsuit as well? Because I don't know about anyone else, but I mean, I've been on set before and...
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I've had people tell me, oh, you should sue them for that. You know what I mean? Because as a production company, as an entity, they had a moral and ethical obligation to say, we have to pause here. I do believe that Blake might have sued Sony, actually.
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Well, allegedly on January 7th, 2025, which as of the time of this recording was two weeks ago, or one week ago, sorry, Baldoni's team sends Disney CEO and Marvel boss a preservation of evidence letter in relation to Deadpool and Wolverine because allegedly Ryan Reynolds character was making comments, essentially making fun of Justin Baldoni in his character of Deadpool. Nice pool.
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I saw, I read it online as nice pool. I didn't know if that was for, um, because Deadpool might get flagged.
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Okay, so they were saying that he made comments in reference to whatever Blake Lively was going through on set of It Ends With Us. And so that's sort of what the extent of the timeline that I have. But in Blake's complaint summary, I mean, it's long. There's a lot going on here. And to your point, she said...
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in the complaint that she was being shown images of naked women, specifically a video of Jamie Heath's wife giving birth, non-consensual discussions of her weight. I did read, we'll say speculation or allegations that this was in reference to an injury that
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baldoni had and so he had to ask for that reason you know i don't know if there's typical protocol for something like that but maybe he didn't need to i don't know if he did or didn't ask her directly but maybe there's like a chain of like a sequence of events that need to occur for that i don't know he allegedly texted or sent a message or spoke to blake's personal trainer asking how much blake weighed because he had there was a scene in which he had to pick her up which blake
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And so at that point, if you have back issues and, and it wasn't initially part of the script, maybe remove it. Right. Like that. I will say it's like, I don't want to be asked how much I weighed by a man or a woman. Right. So for me, I don't want that in there. So at the point that you have a back injury, period, point blank, that is the end of that scene. You know what I mean?
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Um, number three is Mr. Baldoni allegedly speaking to Blake Lively's dead father, which I, you know, I didn't know right off the bat. Uh, number four of like two speaking to, Oh, like, In spirit. Okay. I'm not sure. Interesting. Number four is Blake Lively requesting that an intimacy coordinator be present on set during the scenes between her and Baldoni.
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And so I actually went to see the screener with my best friend who had not read the book. We both cried at the movie the first time we saw it. I hate that Colleen Hoover's first adaptation is sort of clouded by all of this. And I was saying to you earlier, I don't know where the line is, right?
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No more improvised kissing and that Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath not touch Lively, her employees, or other female crew members without their consent. Now, I did see where... there was a conversation had about the intimacy coordinator and Blake Lively denying or declining rather doesn't need an intimacy coordinator. And then she was giving direction in a video. Right.
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So it's kind of, there was a screenshot of text messages where she's declining. I don't know. Allegedly, do your own research. An agreement was reached, which included the following. No more showing nude videos or images, including the producer's wife to Blake. No more mention of Mr. Baldoni's or Mr. Heath's previous pornography addiction. And that's in quotes.
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Or Blake Lively's lack of pornography consumption. That's weird. Right, and then it's just like, why...
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It comes down to the conversations that are being had on set. I own a company where tons of people are on set. We all talk about crazy things, right? But I always make sure that everyone's comfortable. If someone brings up a conversation that somebody else is not comfortable with, I need to make sure that as the owner of the company and I'm
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present like I have to make sure everyone's comfortable if nobody's comfortable don't participate in the conversation and actually don't talk about that so I think at what point were these conversations not being shut down when someone was uncomfortable right and what more could the entire cast or production
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At what point was PR involved? Because I feel like PR handles a lot of this stuff or should handle all of this stuff before it comes out because you you have to almost think ahead from a PR standpoint, right? Because you have to understand that if there's animosity between characters or between actors and actresses, knowing that they're never going to be
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Because Blake deserves a voice, Justin deserves a voice, but Colleen Hoover, this is a huge moment in Colleen Hoover's career. And so that's really sad because the book and the movie have such a strong message, such an important message. And I want to get into like the timeline. And I feel like this all happened so fast.
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The general public hates those. You know when people are going to get divorced and they put out this like joint generic statement about irreconcilable differences or something so generic. And it's like in a way I understand them because they are basically calling a spade a spade.
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But without getting into the nitty gritty details, I do think that that probably could have prevented a lot of the speculation because it would confirm that there is in fact issues without getting into what they are. And I think that potentially could have saved the day.
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Yeah, 100%. I think that without it getting lost in...
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in the sauce like the message of the movie Colleen Hoover all of that I do think that that could have and and and that doesn't mean that that would work for every situation of course because there's definitely I've gone to my PR and I'm freaking out about something they're like actually if you put out a blanket statement like that you're like you're actually bringing more attention to the issue and people will dig further for this specifically we would be we would have sort of an explanation without the details right and they could have handled that privately but I think this was more a
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And again, don't misquote me when I say this. I think this was more battle of the egos. Agreed. And at the end of the day, we're getting the message lost.
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Is that her responsibility as someone who never experienced domestic violence? Or was that PR's responsibility to prep her and, you know, the training, media training on that specific? Should she have gone and done her research and sort of put herself, I don't know, domestic violence, talk to domestic violence victims and survivors and things like that.
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Like, was that her responsibility or was that her team's responsibility? Because she can only promote what she knows. If she's never experienced something like this, she's going to be out of touch for something like this. She can only post, that's all she can do is post the hotline. But I do think that it was mishandled.
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And whether or not Justin Baldoni was ever involved or experienced domestic violence in any way, I do think that he did a good job trying to keep the message alive. And I think there was some sort of foundation or he donated money. I don't know. I thought I saw something like that, but I don't know.
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No, I agree with you. And again, I still think that it would have had the same amount of success if it came out a year later and worked out all of this because I think all of this could have been avoided. But that's not to – I don't want to blame Colleen Hoover in any way, shape, or form because I feel like once you – get optioned for it sort of out of your hands at that point.
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And so I feel like it puts her between a rock and a hard place because definitely, you know, she wants to believe the woman, the person who is allegedly a victim. And then you also have Justin Baldoni coming forward with all of his side of it. And it's like his side, her side and the truth. What do you do?
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He's literally promoting the message of the book and the story to begin with. Like, to me, no.
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if they would have done it together and she was talking about the fashion choices and some of the things that lily lily and her character and her personality 100 and he was promoted i do think because they're in the same interview i do i would agree with you i would agree with right i and i never thought about that i think that all of it was mishandled from start to finish because i think it could have been prevented altogether but i think to your point at what at the point that you are in this industry is there some sort of responsibility to justin and to blake
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that they should have been forced to do the interviews together or because she was making these allegations. You don't want to be around your abuser. Right. Like that was the whole message of the book too, is like, where's the line. And I think that's the question is like, if this isn't black and white, it's such, there's such a big gray area here.
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I don't know what numbers look like in the entertainment or movie industry, but it's $351 million, a lot to make for, like, a box office film.
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good versus average like I have no idea what what movies make but it says also notice how it ends with us has not is not in any award show nominations at all because of the controversy or what I mean not all films will make will get awards of course and but I just feel like for Colleen Hoover the hype around surrounding this movie I also deserved an award this is my maybe unpopular opinion I do think that they should release Justin's version of it ends with us
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I'll tell you what. TikTok and True, I hate to call them sleuths because I think there's a negative connotation, but they'll figure it out before it actually is confirmed. And I feel like the internet can do some wonders with that because when other people caught on, I didn't catch on to that. I just don't have the eye for that. I was shook when people were making these like...
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It already has made the money that it's made. Why not release Justin's version?
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Okay. So again, another opportunity that's missed because of all the mishandlings of this is like,
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I don't get the hype around Wicked, but that's a conversation for another episode.
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But if you see the extent of that... Okay, so we're talking about... It definitely was successful. It ends with us as it falls somewhere in the middle, which I feel like is still on the higher end, especially with people... I mean, movie theaters are closing left and right, right?
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Because with all the streaming and things like that, people don't want to put the money into box office theaters, I feel.
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I don't know. There has to be a loophole that Justin can release that. Because imagine the money that that would make then because people are either they either support him or they don't. Has there ever been something released that way though? No, but I think they missed the mark.
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The way that this was mishandled from top to bottom, they have missed so many opportunities to make this better and bigger than what it was. And we're focused on this. He said, she said, love, hate. whatever animosity between Blake and Justin, which is completely unfair, but they missed the mark. There was a way for them to both get what they want by releasing both cuts. Right.
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In my opinion, I'm also, I've never been on a movie set, so I have no fucking clue, but it's just the whole thing playing out.
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Colleen did say that when you write a book and it's, we'll say 300, 350 pages, and then you
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adapt that to a movie script you have to cut it down to like 100 or 150 pages i will say that i wish they did give it ends with us because it was so big why not make it a little bit longer um to because some of the main points i will say did get lost i think they still did a really good job like telling the story but i will say that the people that are diehard coho fans um and diehard fans of this book would have liked to see some of those moments but there's no way to tell those
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allegations or like having speculation surrounding this because I was like why are you guys turning something into something it's not I just didn't maybe maybe they weren't really friends but that's all I that's the conclusion I came to was like maybe they're not really friends they just work together and that's the end of the story right but people really speculated what was going on before anything happened I I think I was late to the game like I had no idea that there was drama
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parts of the story without cutting without making the script basically 300 pages so i i do understand that um in terms of contradictions in this case or cases one of the things was the unwanted physical contact blake lively says that justin engaged in unsolicited physical contact his rebuttal
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is that he's denying these allegations, asserting that all physical interactions were consensual and professionally appropriate. In an appropriate on-set conversation, Blake says that she contends that Justin and the producer Jamie Heath discussed personal sexual experiences and previous pornography addiction in her presence, creating a hostile work environment.
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And Justin, his response to this is that he disputes this characterization, stating that any personal discussions were either misconstrued or did not occur as described.
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retaliation and smear campaign Blake says that she is Blake asserts that after raising concerns while Donnie and Heath hired crisis management experts to orchestrate a campaign aimed at damaging her reputation through social media and media placements Justin refutes this claiming that any public relation efforts were standard industry practice and not intended to harm Lively's reputation and then onset behavior and professionalism Blake claims that
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that Baldoni's behavior created a toxic work environment leading to her feeling unsafe and disrespected. At the point that she felt that way, should the entire production have been put on pause? He refutes this. He maintains that he conducted himself professionally at all times and that any concerns raised were addressed promptly and appropriately.
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If she continued, maybe I would believe that that's probably true, that he...
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are going to be paramount to this case.
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What if there are people that don't have, they don't pick a side, like people, the people that were on set don't, you know, feel one way or another.
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If that's what people are saying, how they felt either. So that's the, that's the tricky part of this is like what Blake is feeling or saying that she felt we can't dispute that. Right. You can only maintain what you feel that you did.
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Maybe it gets dismissed. There's not enough evidence on either side because of... And I've seen that. I mean, that happened in my own lawsuit, right? It was completely dismissed because there was not enough evidence on either side.
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That's like someone having consensual sex and turning around and saying I was raped. That doesn't it doesn't work that way.
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Blake claims, she said she believes that the alleged misconduct and subsequent retaliation adversely affected the film's production and her performance and And Justin's response, he argues the production proceeded smoothly and that any challenges were unrelated to the allegations, which this is my first time actually seeing that response.
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And that's basically what I've been saying this whole time is you weren't uncomfortable enough to stop it. Right. It doesn't mean it didn't happen. but you didn't put an end to it. And I just don't know, again, it felt because victims sometimes don't come forward. And so that's the flip side of it is that, you know, some people don't speak up or they speak up way after the fact.
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And I think that that, that doesn't, some people will argue that that make, make some question that person's credibility. And I don't necessarily always agree with that.
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Maybe. But I don't think it undermines credibility. Exactly. Because rape victims come forward long after it happens. And I will never victim shame someone if they decide to come forward two years later or two months later. At the end of the day, that is their responsibility.
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You're a journalist and I've been on TV. So we sort of have a different perspective and we see it through a different lens because we have that background. I think that the general public who has not been in that same, those same positions are see things through a different lens than we do.
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Well, so the legal actions and motivations, Blake says, so she views her lawsuit as a necessary step to address and rectify the alleged misconduct to advocate for a safer work environment. I think across the board, we should be promoting a safe work environment, no matter the setting, no matter the place, no matter the industry.
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I don't know how I see this case evolving over months to come. I hope that Colleen Hoover continues to get the recognition that she deserves for the book and for the movie. I hope to see Justin's cut one day just to see what the differences were. And I hope that the truth prevails in whatever that looks like for either of them or for both of them. Right. That's where I stand.
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One of their careers, because I think I'm starting to see Johnny Depp come back from that, but I think Amber Heard has been... Buried.
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That's a scary place to be because I mean, she has a family to provide for.
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Do you think a documentary will come about, come out of this the same way that it did for Amber and Johnny Depp? I do think so. I think, Can this podcast get in there then too? Because I was on the one on Johnny Depp.
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I've seen him everywhere. And then new revelations. This is breaking news. It's probably not breaking news. I'm just the last to know.
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johnny depp's team is representing justin baldoni and he's representing blake she does have a strong um like her publicist is badass yeah but they can't fight they can't litigate no pr cannot litigate so who is who is let me look it up i do think she is blake lively oh no one's googled this lively's attorney and why aren't they speaking up
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So we know to sort of take it with a grain of salt and maybe understand that right off the bat, that there is two sides or three sides to the story where someone else might see things and call it for what they see it as.
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I feel in my personal, humble, non-important opinion is that lawyers don't come forward and do a whole press tour on their stance unless they feel like their case is 100% solid. Because my lawyers, and that's across the board from family court to trademark to entertainment attorney here in New York, They will tell me, I cannot tell you for certain what is going to happen.
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They tell me that every single time.
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I'm not seeing it anywhere just off of really quick, brief Google search, but I'll be curious to see how this plays out. And please let us know if you have, I'm always the last to know everything when it comes to this. So if you guys have any updates, please send them and let us know what you want to hear about next. Thanks for coming. Thank you so much.
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This just in. I know we just recorded an entire episode about all of the things about Justin and Blake. And OK Magazine just hit the breaking news with Justin Baldoni countersuing Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds, and her publicist for $400 million over It Ends With Us smear campaign. And I do know...
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based on everything that I'm reading, is that Justin Baldoni also named Taylor Swift in this part of the lawsuit. He's claiming that they met at Blake's penthouse and they were talking and Taylor inserted her two cents, basically saying that she really liked Blake's cuts, her ideas, you know, all of that. And so I thought that was really interesting.
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And I do think, I mean, that's a scary place to be is to name Taylor Swift in anything good or bad, because I feel like The Swifties will come after you. So he might lose a lot of fans just by naming her. I don't know. It's kind of scary.
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But on Thursday, January 16th, lawyers for the It Ends With Us director and his production company filed a counter lawsuit against Lively, her husband, Ryan, and her publicist, Leslie Sloan, and the agent PR firm Vision PR Inc. for a bombshell $400 million. So... This is kind of crazy. I don't know where this is going to go. Maybe they'll settle, but maybe egos won't let them.
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So we'll keep you guys updated. I'll be curious to see what happens. And you'll have to let me know if you're team Justin or team Blake.
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I would be curious though. We talked about in the beginning of this episode, we talked about how – The entire situation sucks for Colleen, right? Professionally speaking. But do we think that all of this has made people go watch the movie more?
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There's a lot of drama surrounding this. What's your take on it? Where are we at?
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I look at clips from the movie and I think to myself, how were these two able to work together so closely when there was so much animosity between them? During all of this or alleged animosity or potential animosity or maybe it was one sided and the other party didn't know how I do think they did a great job. I loved it.
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But I do wonder how they were able to effectively do these scenes and have these intimate moments on camera and for the movie when they potentially felt like this about each other.
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I'll be honest with you. Is he on that?
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credentials I guess you would say are from directing too and not necessarily starring so more so but like behind the scenes yeah I also don't know that I had ever seen I knew who Blake Lively was but I don't know that I had ever seen her act I didn't watch Gossip Girl I had never seen The Shallows is that a show yeah it's like a shark movie I've never seen any I knew who she was oh no you know what I saw Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants or The Age of Adeline no I have no idea what that is okay so I knew who she was vaguely I didn't know she was as big as she is um
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and I'm not talking about physically, I mean her present, like I didn't know that she is as popular and famous as she is. Um, and so I was like, I cannot believe this is even going on. Um, okay. So going back to the timeline, we have December 20th, Blake lively files, the CRD complaint.
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Then the very next day, the New York times posts, um, the report about the alleged smear campaign against lively two days later, December 23rd, 2024, Justin and Heath's co-host, is Heath the last name of somebody? So Baldoni and Heath's co-host on the Man Enough podcast, Liz Plank, leaves the show with no explanation.
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So that leads me to believe that she's probably thinking, oh my gosh, she wants to, these are all my own thoughts. These are nobody else's thoughts. Allegedly. Allegedly. Um, think that maybe she was like, okay, well, if Blake Lively is a victim in this, like I can't support Justin, right? Like, I don't know that for sure.
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I don't know what her thought process was, but she leaves it with no explanation, which I didn't even know he had a podcast.
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So she leaves it the next day, the very next day. And it came, oh, it says it came days after Lively's complaint against Baldoni. So that's, I mean, that has to have impacted his, maybe not his income, but the brand as a whole, which is sort of like defamation, I would say. Libel, slander, defamation still falls into that sort of category.
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And then on Christmas Eve 2024, we have Baldoni's former publicist suing him, Abel Nathan and Wayfarer, Stephanie Jones and her agency, Jones Works LLC, filed a lawsuit against him, his company, and then his current publicist, Abel, and crisis communications specialist, Nathan, in New York, December 24. What's the deal with that?
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I don't think that I necessarily understood where the publicist came into it because-
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And so by filing a lawsuit against him, they must have thought that he bent the rules or says, quote, defendants Abel and Nathan secretly conspired for months to publicly and privately attack Jones and Jones works to breach multiple contracts and induce contractual breaches and to steal clients and business prospects. What does that mean? I'm not understanding.
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I know what it means, but where does it fall into like into all of the drama? Because then on December 31st, 2024, Baldoni, Wayfair, and others sue the New York Times. And in the lawsuit, the New York Times is accused of libel, false light invasion of privacy, promissory fraud, and breach of implied in fact contract for its article about retaliatory smear campaign.
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The plaintiffs allegedly conducted against Lively after she voiced concerns about purported misconduct on set. But who is in charge during this entire time on set? If there were issues on set... So there was a... I'm pretty sure... Actually, I'm not pretty sure. Just put yourself in Blake Lively's shoes. If what she's saying is true, and these horrific things are happening to her...
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I am no longer pursuing. I'm putting a pause on everything. And until everything is situated, we're not moving forward. Right. I'm not going to. And I don't want to victim shame. Right. So that's not an attack on her. But you think you would think.
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So I feel like maybe it was like that. Okay. So then we have December 31st, 2024, which is what? Three weeks ago? Yep, three weeks ago. Lively files a lawsuit against Baldoni and Wayfair Associates. January 2nd, Baldoni's lawyer expresses intent to sue Lively. I think this is where everything intensifies publicly, right? In the court of public opinion, right? People went from being...
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It Ends With Us Legal Drama Breakdown With Rebecca
sort of on Blake's side to now switching over. And then this is where I feel it really intensified that people were like, okay, we believe Justin.
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Does anyone feel bad for Colleen? Is everyone looking at Colleen and like, okay, this is supposed to be a pivotal moment in her career. This could potentially set the tone for the rest of her adaptations that are coming. Verity is in the works right now, right? And I think Regretting You is another one. I think Reminders of Him was picked up.
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So this is the first one that is going to set the tone for I just, I don't, does anyone feel bad for her? Where are their thoughts in here? For both of them? And maybe they've reached out personally and privately. I don't know. But where is the, just as publicly as you're destroying this for her, where is the, the public apology, right? Public, you know, you feel bad, don't you?
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And then it's, I think that was early on though. And if you, if you were following the case really closely or the cases and, and, and all of this really closely, I did read. And again, this is all alleged. I don't know this to be absolutely factual, but there was something that I read that was talking about how Blake said that she would refuse to promote the film because
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and the work if everyone was basically not on her side right so and how is that fair again this is colleen hoover's first adaptation so she wants to support the actress the main character of her story and i don't blame her for that i understand where she's coming from and i think that you know everybody involved here really owes colleen hoover an apology i agree
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Kate and Toby Get Married | "The Wedding" (S2E18)
You gotta be more specific about your wishes, Toby.
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Kate and Toby Get Married | "The Wedding" (S2E18)
There you go. You gotta be real specific when you wish for that stuff.
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Kate and Toby Get Married | "The Wedding" (S2E18)
And you were like, do you understand what a wife is?
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Kate and Toby Get Married | "The Wedding" (S2E18)
I didn't want you to have to sit too much in that compliment.
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Kate and Toby Get Married | "The Wedding" (S2E18)
You think you're a reminder of Jack? I'm a reminder of Jack.
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Yes. Oh, yes. So much energy to contend. I can think of one family member on Rachel's side who I don't remember his name, which is why you were at the second wedding.
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Fella, lady. Rach and I were out to dinner the other night at the server.
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And she's looking at the menu. I don't know. We're going to get you gentlemen.
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The only Rebecca not played by me, but Taylor was watching it with me. He's like, oh, they did this before they casted your parents in real life. I was like, well, no, Elizabeth Perkins had been cast, but I don't think you'd met Tim Matheson yet. I'm not sure. Had we?
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On today's episode of That Was Us, we're diving into Season 3, Episode 3, Katie Girls. Everyone rallies around Kate as she undergoes egg retrieval surgery. Both Randall and Kevin go on personal journeys to connect with different parts of Jack's life. And Rebecca must decide between the comfort of her previous life or the excitement of a new one.
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Because he looks nothing like Tim Matheson.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Just, you know, we don't always nail it. Right?
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So after that, Rebecca goes back to Alan's home and confides in his mom that she has said yes to Alan to going to New York, but she has this feeling about someone else and she doesn't know him. They have very different lives and very different dreams and ideas of the future, but she just has this feeling about him. And his mom is essentially like, Like, you can't ignore that, right?
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
She's definitely an inspiration, I think, to her. She has a lot of respect.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
We don't have pigtails. We just sort of have the flippy bob.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
She looks for the car. She knows his car at this point. And deduces he's at this particular house. And she just goes up and knocks on the door. And he answers the door. And he's dropped his mom off at her friend's house where she's going to be staying for the future. And they went out on a walk. But he's home. And it's so interesting because he sort of invites her in.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
And then like kind of just like they have this conversation. He just like goes back to the kitchen and starts doing the dishes.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
But it's like he's not, it's not like he's welcoming a guest with open arms and how you would sort of like not roll out the red carpet, but you would at least, you know, feel like, oh, this person who I have this connection with, we just went on a date or whatever. I don't know.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
But he just sort of leads her to the kitchen to do dishes. Yeah. And they have this like... They just sort of stand there in silence. And one washes the dishes and Rebecca takes them and dries them.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
And there were braces at one point. They didn't end up using the braces.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Yeah, it was sort of like... We don't have to have a conversation about anything right now. We don't have to address like the elephant in the room. Do we want to be together? Do we want to pursue this? We can just like, I just need your essence. Like I need to be around you. And I don't know why. And I don't have to answer that right now.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
But I'm comfortable enough to just stand here and help you dry these dishes. That's all I need.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
I don't remember. What did I ask him for a drive?
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
That was the answer she needed. It was like, this is how they got together.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Only New York, New York, New York. LA's fine, but New York?
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The one tier, I love it. I love the single tier.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Of course! No, Sterling's like, what, you need the left or right? Where are we?
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
I've had the menthol before. It doesn't help. It just makes your eyes feel like they're burning.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
It's not... That's not a natural, that's not an emotional tear. It's just like my eyes are irritated.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Yeah, and I'm sorry that it was so easy for Beth to get pregnant. It hasn't been easy for me to get pregnant. This is the only way I can.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Yes, because while she's under, there's this beautiful montage where she sees herself as a baby with her brothers, like at the hospital. And then suddenly she sees, like she's at the ice cream parlor, right? Where she sees all the other two versions of herself, right? Her like littlest version, her teenage version.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Yes, yes, exactly. And she's sort of like, oh, sorry, she's at the hospital.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
And then we see her and the smallest version of Kate and Jack is there. Yeah. And they're all together. They all eat the, what is it, banana-
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Yeah. And it's just, it's really sweet. And you sort of understand the correlation between her being here and seeing her dad and sort of making peace with the different versions of herself. And not clearing the anesthesia yet, not ready to wake up. It's like she has this unfinished business.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
And she finally has to tell Jack and the other Kates that like she does have to go.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Yeah, I have somewhere to go. I have somewhere to be. I'm not like ready to be here with you guys yet. Even though there's such a pull, there's such a draw for her to be there with her father. Yeah. And these other versions of herself where she feels sort of really comfortable, right? And she, of course, then wakes up.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
She sees Toby and she sees that Randall's there and basically tells him, like, it's the most dad move ever that he flew all the way across the country. She's like, what? You're here? Like, she can't believe that she wakes up and you're there.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
It was a very successful egg retrieval surgery. They got eight eggs, and yeah. And so the journey continues for them.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Well, what we didn't see earlier in the episode was that Beth was waiting for a proposal of hers to get approved by her boss at work.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
And when she arrives at work that day, that next day, in anticipation of him sort of reviewing her proposal, she gets unceremoniously fired, like out of the blue, and basically is just told that she is less valuable than... She's not as valuable as two other senior... Two other colleagues.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Yeah. And Beth has this flashback to William when William was around and he basically like has this beautiful analogy and says that, you know, Beth is sort of like the bass and like a jazz quartet, right? She's the quietest, but the people who really know music, who really love and really listen, like they're the ones that are listening for the bass.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
And when that happens, don't twiddle your ring. Yeah, don't twiddle your ring. He did mention that.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
So all of this to say, when Randall flies back to see Beth and says that he has made a decision, that he wants to do something, something concrete to really help. Yes. He says he's going to run against the councilman. Yeah. And just as Beth sort of takes that in, she admits to him.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Yeah, it's a tiny chasm that's sort of like, we feel the first break with them.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Their jobs are both a little ambiguous.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Yeah, I just feel maybe something out there. You know, sometimes when you're being watched. Yeah.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Yeah, you think I just sort of exist on the surface. But there are many, many, many layers to the onion.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
You can see the wheels turning in his head, though. He's like, wait, I've never really thought about this. I don't know much about my dad's service. I never asked those questions. Why didn't I ask those questions? Why didn't he talk about it? You just saw all of this sort of on his face.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
About others, about the world around you. And it's really beautiful. It's one of my favorite things about you.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
But so I think it comes maybe it's more effortless for you.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Than it would be for me. But I agree. I wish I want to employ more of that.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
yeah i'm okay to be vulnerable but it's it's and not saying that you have the expectation of someone else then being vulnerable back with you um but yeah i i too sort of share the idea of like i'm a little hesitant because i don't want someone to ever feel obligated either there are very few people i know friends included who i don't have the response like in my head them thinking what makes you think we're close enough
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Yeah, sure, sure, sure, yeah. I feel that.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
When Beth gives you a warning, you heed Beth.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Yeah. So it didn't really allow for the conversation to go forward.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
You know, people, his son, his wife respected that. Like, okay, that's territory we don't cross with dad.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
And Kevin and Zoe are going to embark on—
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
They're going to start putting the pieces together. So that's going to be... Finding some of Jack's buddies that are in the photo with him from Vietnam that they have.
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Let's do a fan segment, our favorite, favorite part of the show. Let's do it.
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Oh, Moore. Moore. Madison and Sharon, the woman he works with.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
He's never seen, or sorry, how? sugar. I've never seen anything like it.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Okay. They've never seen anything like you before, and they never will again.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Don't go to L.A. Come to New York. Don't go to New York.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Yeah, he's emotionally, physically abusive.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
You know what I'm saying? She doesn't care, but if that makes you happy, that's what I mean. He's saying, your friend won't care, but if it makes you happy... Do what you gotta do, right?
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Yeah, his mom and I have this great conversation in the kitchen, and she's just spunky, and I like the rapport that she and Rebecca have. There's definitely, she's... She, I think, aspires to be like Alan's mom. Sure. Like, she definitely, like, you see that she's powerful. She has a sense of authority. She's really confident.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
It's time to go. Oh, you guys, there are lots of questions being answered in Katie Girls, right?
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
And the choices that she's made in her life as well, I think, kind of mirror what the kind of woman Rebecca wants to be. And then Alan shows up in the kitchen in another scene and basically is like, sorry, I was going to try to wait at least, like, a week before I asked you to move to New York with me. And Rebecca basically says, like, okay, fine. I'll go with you. Right? That's right.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
So then she is like, we should celebrate. This calls for champagne. I'm going to go get some champagne. You stay here with your family. Let me go do this. She goes to the grocery store where she runs into.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
And she's sort of like, wait. what are you doing on this side of town? Because it's not where he lives. And she's visiting, you know, Alan's parents. And he's like, you know, I'm with my mom or whatever. And they have this very, like, awkward, stilted sort of conversation where it's like they're both – Not saying what they really mean.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
They don't know each other, but it's sort of like, I don't want to stop talking to you and I don't know why. And that's probably not appropriate. And I'm, I just left the house with these people that I've.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
I mean, I think we could just jump right into how the episode starts. And it's sort of a flash, flash, flashback to the 50s with a doting wife and a husband who just comes home from work. The wife is just like... putting dinner on the table, pouring a drink. Little girl sort of posted up in front of the TV and then clocking the dynamic between her parents, right?
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Like, oof, now I'm going to get emotional. It's like, yeah, the gratitude of how things have unfolded in life. It's like I didn't know to even dream of any of this.
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And I think we come to realize that that is... That's young Rebecca Pearson, Rebecca Malone.
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Just kidding. Just paint in the wrinkles.
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I know what that means. Okay.
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Detest. No, I really don't like it. And I just have visceral memories of my childhood. My dad loved it.
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Just don't use the clippers for your nails. He clips his cuticles with nail scissors.
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You guys, I always have one on me. I have one in my purse. I have one in sort of my travel totes. I'm someone that lately has just forgotten to eat a meal sometimes. And so it's like knowing that I always have my go-to protein snack with me has become essential.
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It's the perfect little treat. I have to tell you. I just, I crave them now.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
Let's go back to Beth because as Randall is going to church, the girls sort of come in and they're a little disenchanted that Randall's working and he's campaigning because they have to sell Girl Scout cookies. And Beth is like, well, I can help you guys sell cookies. You know, I don't have a lot on my plate right now and I'm happy to help you. They go try to find a place to sell cookies.
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She brings them to a grocery store at first and realizes when they get there, there's another troop that's set up
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
They're already working the corner. They're working the outside of the grocery store. Spots taken. So they have to pivot, find another place. And where did they end up?
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
And the one guy who comes by and is like, you know what? I will buy four boxes of cookies. Here's my credit card. Tess sort of looks at her mom like, where's the swipey thing? And she's like, what now? Like, I need what? She has not brought the card reader. It's pre-COVID, so you didn't know.
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All walks of life. All regions. When I was a Girl Scout, the Samoas were called Caramel Delights. Yes. Caramel Delights. Yes. Yeah. You can say caramel. Caramel, caramel. Caramel.
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some say caramel some say caramel how long were you a girl scout i was a daisy than a brownie than a girl scout oh yeah yeah so when you were singing and girl scouting no no all before the music yes i have sold cookies on tour i could have man you would have killed oh man you would have definitely got the pizza party
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I digress. Poor Beth was getting harangued by her children.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
I feel like he does have some sort of outburst about Kevin or something.
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Yeah, but I feel like in my mind there's something that he just gets pushed and poked.
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I just prefer a sweet potato over a pumpkin in general.
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So we come to find out that Jack has been boxing after work with some buddies. Rebecca thinks he's just been using... Hitting the heavy bag. Exactly. But he's actually physically been boxing with friends of his. Sparring. Sparring, sorry. And he got a black eye.
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That's funny. I just said I don't like cream. I don't like citrus and cream.
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My take is I feel very aligned with Rebecca of like, we're going to call the principal. Like Rebecca does find out about this from Jack. And she's like, first of all, I wish you would talk to me about.
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Because she catches Jack and Randall in the act of sparring.
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Yeah. Like, I'm not sure I'm understanding this connection.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
And so Rebecca basically says, like, we're going to solve this by calling the principal and speaking to him about Dylan and who this kid is and why is he hurting our child or threatening, you know, like.
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Oh, if they were interested in that, for sure. I agree with being literate and knowing how to use your body and feeling comfortable in your skin and feeling strong and empowered. I'm all for that. If they also recognized that it wasn't something to be used in particular cases. It shouldn't be the first line of defense.
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your your words and and or talking you know understanding that something's not right or you feel uncomfortable in speaking to an adult and having an adult like intervene and help with the situation like yeah i mean maybe that's not the way it goes in high school or something but at least with like when i'm thinking about little kids you know where the ages that my kids are right now like having them understand the difference between like it's okay to recognize when
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you don't like something when, you know, someone's taken something without asking you or someone's hitting you or that you can, you don't have to hit back. Like, I mean, we go through this all day with the boys. It's just like, Ozzy takes your toy. Like, you don't go hit him. You would say, Ozzy, I was playing with that. Can I have it back, please? Or come get me or dad or like, we'll help.
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We'll, you know, explain to him he's also two, two and a half. Like, he's... He's not a big boy like you. He's not quite at the age where he understands how all of this transaction works.
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Gus is like, no! Oh, yeah, exactly. And just like chucks him against the wall. But also I'm like, dude, Ozzy's about to be bigger than you any day.
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You think so? Yeah, Ozzy's going to be bigger than Gus. I think Lou is going to be bigger than all of them.
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She's going to be the big sister, the little big sister that towers over everybody.
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You guys, we got a bubble making kit where you sort of like, you put together the little net that you're going to scoop the bubble solution through. And they're like the most gigantic, gorgeous, sort of almost, they're huge. They're like balloons.
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And we have had so much fun in the backyard running around making bubbles with the boys and our dog Marshmallow who jumps up and like tries to eat all of the bubbles. It's hilarious. Hilarious. We're having so much fun making these bubbles.
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It's creative, educational, and gives parents a much-needed break from planning.
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Well, Kate is pregnant, and the episode starts with her calling pretty much everybody. Her mom, Kevin, Randall.
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At the park. Who's Kate was talking to somebody on the phone?
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You just have to trust your gut, take a deep breath, and make a choice. That's what she does. That's what we all do. And you'll get through whatever the situation is.
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Um, they get back. Toby has tried. He's made an effort. He's gotten out of bed. He's taken a shower. He's gotten dressed like he's giving it the old college try. Kate comes home and sees and he's just sort of has to admit to himself and her like. I'm not ready for this. I need to be in bed. This medication still hasn't taken its course, and I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know where I am.
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Kevin didn't have a single relationship with a woman that didn't involve sex. A friendship with a woman would have shown growth. I wish they could have let him just be friends with Cassidy. That tryst was so unnecessary. Hot take! Hot take!
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
A woman that you would potentially think there would be a romantic element to, and they were just friends.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
He picks the blue shirt for church over the white shirt, which I thought was cute.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
No, I believe it would be two-time Emmy winner.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
Season six should have spent more time showing Kate and Philip's relationship and less time explaining why Kate and Toby got divorced.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
I think there can be moments in a career where someone is busier.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
Or the focus sort of has to be on them in a case-by-case situation. Sure. But recognizing that things fluctuate. Things are constantly going to be moving and shifting and evolving. And I don't know. I'd be happy to sort of... I mean, I guess... It's a complicated equation. It's a complicated equation. And I think as, you know...
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
Being in a partnership with someone who is also creative, who also has to spend a lot of time away from home and away from the family for his job, we constantly have to be checking in with each other. And I understand, like, Taylor's on tour right now for a couple more weeks. Like, I'm home. I'm not working. I'm, like, keeping things sort of steady on the home front.
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And hopefully there will come a time soon where I have to work and he has to sort of, like, buckle up and kind of be the primary parent at home holding things down. Sure. So I don't know if I necessarily like agree with this hot take.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
Why don't we pause the podcast, do a quick Google search.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
Yes, because that has been her role in their relationship for the majority of their relationship. So it feels like she is worthy of taking this moment and relishing it and being on the hunt and having her man support her at that point. Amen.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
I flipped the table. Hot take, Jodi. I mean, listen, she was sad. Yeah. She was a sad lady.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
Like she was, I think as we went on, she was able to find a little bit more joy.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
I think Sherbert feels like the... Is there dairy in Sherbert? No, there's no dairy in Sherbert, I don't think.
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Randall's Campaign | "Kamsahamnida" (306)
I mean. I feel like you don't make the presumption. I feel like I oftentimes get that look of like, do our kids go to school together? Did we go to high school together? There's like a knowing glance of familiarity without being able to necessarily place it. I get that.
The Russell Brunson Show
The Simple Shift That Took Me Out of Stress Mode and Into Sales Mode | #Success - Ep. 36
what i want to do is i don't want to be like i don't want to create my own thing and have people going through my coaching stuff also so i don't want to build an offer why is that because i feel that i want to have my i'm not really into the coaching that much i want to be able to talk about it but i don't want to be the one delivering it okay
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The Simple Shift That Took Me Out of Stress Mode and Into Sales Mode | #Success - Ep. 36
Yeah, so I went through a course in affiliate marketing from Commission Hero Pro. I don't know if you know who that is, but probably because he's pretty big on affiliate marketing. So he's teaching how to build a faceless page and then you basically drive drive the traffic to ClickBank. But I found that I don't like the offers on ClickBank.
The Russell Brunson Show
The Simple Shift That Took Me Out of Stress Mode and Into Sales Mode | #Success - Ep. 36
I don't really resonate with the whole weight loss niche that much, which is what they are teaching. And I also want to be able to build my own list for the future. So that's why I haven't really felt that That I want to promote those products. I want to promote something else. And then I found like Regan Hillier has a course that is called 10K a month that had master resale rights.
The Russell Brunson Show
The Simple Shift That Took Me Out of Stress Mode and Into Sales Mode | #Success - Ep. 36
And I also have the roadmap to riches, which also has master resale rights.
The Russell Brunson Show
The Simple Shift That Took Me Out of Stress Mode and Into Sales Mode | #Success - Ep. 36
No, I don't think so. Regan is basically teaching the course, so you can't really, it's her face is in the course.
The Russell Brunson Show
The Simple Shift That Took Me Out of Stress Mode and Into Sales Mode | #Success - Ep. 36
No, not the name. The name has to stay the same.
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The Simple Shift That Took Me Out of Stress Mode and Into Sales Mode | #Success - Ep. 36
And I mean, I don't have to promote those products. It's just that... I don't feel that I want to create my own course at the moment. I am seven months pregnant and I just feel that I want to free up my time, but I still want to be able to talk about personal development and things like that, but I don't want to show up like be the one teaching at the moment.
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The Simple Shift That Took Me Out of Stress Mode and Into Sales Mode | #Success - Ep. 36
Yeah, sorry.
The Russell Brunson Show
The Simple Shift That Took Me Out of Stress Mode and Into Sales Mode | #Success - Ep. 36
Yeah, I think so. Sorry. My kids are in the background. The house.
The Russell Brunson Show
The Simple Shift That Took Me Out of Stress Mode and Into Sales Mode | #Success - Ep. 36
I understand.
The Russell Brunson Show
The Simple Shift That Took Me Out of Stress Mode and Into Sales Mode | #Success - Ep. 36
My question is that I have a few products that have master resale rights and I haven't really started to promote them because I've been confused in how to do the marketing. I have but not really seriously. It's been like a starting stopping because I feel that I don't know how to do it properly.
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Storytelling, Niching, and Selling: Q&A from the Selling Online VIP Session!
Rebecca, what's your question? Good to see you. Nice to meet you. So, I am an architect by trade and I've created a course outline that
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Storytelling, Niching, and Selling: Q&A from the Selling Online VIP Session!
um commercial building commercial business owners through the property development process my problem is that process is really long it's like two or three years long so i've broken it down into like 12 courses um which is kind of like a 12-step process right and i did that so that i could um capture different audience targets during different phases of construction
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Storytelling, Niching, and Selling: Q&A from the Selling Online VIP Session!
Es könnte ein Grupp von Leuten sein, die nur ein Stück Land suchen. Es könnte auch ein anderes Grupp von Leuten sein, das ich als Generalcontractor anbieten kann. Ich will also nicht nur die Menschen am Anfang herausfinden. Aber ich habe eine schwierige Zeit, die Tatsache zu lösen, dass meine Landingpage nur eine Sache verkaufen muss. Right.
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Storytelling, Niching, and Selling: Q&A from the Selling Online VIP Session!
Like I have these 12 courses and everybody says, like, if you give too many offers, then it confuses your audience and they don't buy anything. And so I have this landing page and it shows all my courses and all the steps so they can kind of self-identify where they need to go. But it's not really getting any traction. And I don't know how to how to manage that.
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Storytelling, Niching, and Selling: Q&A from the Selling Online VIP Session!
It's a little overwhelming. What I'm hearing is 12 videos for 12 courses. And then also segmenting out who I'm targeting. into other sales videos. That's a lot, right? Because you kind of answered my follow up question, which was, you know, I am selling to daycare owners, restaurant owners and doctors, right? They're all unrelated.
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Storytelling, Niching, and Selling: Q&A from the Selling Online VIP Session!
None of them self identify as property developers, even though that's what I'm teaching. So how do I create So what I would do first, because...
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Storytelling, Niching, and Selling: Q&A from the Selling Online VIP Session!
Yeah, it's overwhelming.
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Storytelling, Niching, and Selling: Q&A from the Selling Online VIP Session!
In etwa zwei bis drei Jahren dauert der typische Prozess. Von der Zeit, als man zuerst einen Geschäftsplan aufbaut und eine Location findet, bis man in das Gebäude kommt.
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Storytelling, Niching, and Selling: Q&A from the Selling Online VIP Session!
Wie sieht der Avatar aus? Es kann alles sein. Normalerweise haben sie schon einen und bauen einen anderen. Sie machen diese kleinen, miniaturen Bereiche. Sie targetieren eine Gemeinschaft und saturieren diese Gemeinschaft mit ihrer Marke.
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Storytelling, Niching, and Selling: Q&A from the Selling Online VIP Session!
Some people do that as well too, right? If the property is too big for what they need and it makes business sense, they'll add extra.
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Storytelling, Niching, and Selling: Q&A from the Selling Online VIP Session!
Ja.
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Storytelling, Niching, and Selling: Q&A from the Selling Online VIP Session!
It's not two to three years for each course, but the 12 courses equals the two to three years. What's course number one that they all need? Business Planning and or Location Secrets. Like I have one called Location Secrets.
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Storytelling, Niching, and Selling: Q&A from the Selling Online VIP Session!
Yeah, the Location Secrets one is the focus that I like.
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Do you want to give it a try? Would that be all right?
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So when you said that your ex-wife used to say, well, you know, you have this in your family, was it in the context of your son that she would say that or?