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a couple of JFK's lovers.

He talks to JFK's mother-in-law, who just gave a fascinating insight into JFK.

And also Joe Kennedy, John F. Kennedy's father, was having an open affair with his personal assistant for much of the time.

And even though this woman's now, I think, 102 years old,

J. Randy Tarabarelli talks to her and gets incredible insight into why JFK was such a flawed man, how his upbringing and what he saw around him informed him.

I...

I came away thinking, oh, my goodness, the story of the Kennedys is like a Greek tragedy.

You know, the mechanism has been set in train.

There are personal flaws within all these characters.

And...

As time goes on, these people are just heading towards tragedy, towards a great fall.

And I forgot that I was reading a biography for a lot of this book.

Exactly.

And I think the one thing that we really have not mentioned here is that we as audiobook listeners to nonfiction, we will really spot if it's a badly written book.

It will sound percussive.

it will feel like somebody has just done a massive information dump.

And it's just this fact, this fact, this fact, this fact.

Exactly.

It just ticks those two boxes that are so vital for nonfiction.

You know why that book needed to be written.