Reggie Watts

My eyes were like, you need moisture.

What's going on?

But, um, I was like, and we went through eras.

We were like staring into each other's eyes and like the, the eyes stayed the same.

The point stayed the same, but everything around it was changing.

And we were like in eras and

things of that nature and i like well i'm not like kind of come out of that and go like well that drug experience was great it's like no i experienced that the observer experienced that it was just another state so whether you are white river rafting whether you're hanging by your skin uh you know in a native american tradition or you're at a sweat lodge or you're sewing or you're knitting or you're getting into some kind of a hypnotic state from driving on a track in a fast car or whatever it is

It's all the same shit.

And so so for me, I don't compartmentalize like I don't I don't prioritize.

I think the relationship to drugs because of the stigma and stuff like that, that creates issues.

And I think drugs make you put you in a state that reminds you of a way of being that people may misinterpret as the drug being the cause of that.

Certainly it is the revelator to that, but it reveals that.

But I think the mistake is when people are like, no, heroin makes me feel like this or cocaine makes me feel more social and I feel like I have energy.

And when you rely on that mechanism, I think that's a problem because now you're not giving your awareness and your consciousness credit for the experience.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, I mean, they do and they don't like they do in that the hard reality, practical functionality of things.

So if we observe the stages of things or the stages or the different or the changing of states or the what they call it, like the return to stasis or whatever, or even going into exalted states and things like that.

I think that they are as different as you perceive them to be different.

But for me, I don't really think there's a difference ultimately.

And what I mean by that is like, and it's not to discount what you're saying, I believe that is a way of viewing it.