Renato Stabile
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116 appearances
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard May 2025
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because they wanted to be famous or because he promised them something or he would help them with their career. Now, you don't have to agree with that. And you could say that's manipulative, but the defense is going to say, OK, but that's not a crime. Right. You don't have to like what he did. You don't have to condone it. You don't have to condone these freak offs or whatever was going on.
But nobody was forced. Right. They have to show force, coercion, duress, all of those things. And the defense is going to be people did this willingly. And so maybe younger jurors are going to be more receptive that people will do like almost anything to be close to a celebrity or to become famous themselves.
Yeah, gender is always an interesting issue in any sort of sexual assault case where the defense is consent. Jurors are going to have to accept that the alleged victims did these things voluntarily and of their own free will. And depending on the circumstances, what I found is that sometimes It's counterintuitive. You think female jurors would side with female victims.
But in consent cases, female jurors can sometimes judge very harshly. If the defense is arguing they voluntarily went into these situations, female jurors might judge these women harshly and say, you didn't know what was going to go down in that hotel room. You didn't know what was going to happen at this party.
Or at least maybe you didn't know before you got there, but at some point you knew what was going on and I would have just gotten up and walked out. And I think that's going to be a big part of the defense. Male jurors might feel more protective of these alleged victims.
They'll view it differently and feel like they're protecting them in returning a guilty verdict, whereas female jurors might have set a much higher bar in terms of what they're willing to believe.
For sure, they did it already because the trial is going to start. I mean, they're going to start jury selection in just a few weeks. And I think they're filing, both sides are filing pre-trial motions today. So watch the docket because the pre-trial motions that they file are going to give you a
One thing that is always a consideration in a very high profile case like this is that if you bring mock jurors in to test this case, you know, you get them to sign confidentiality agreements and of course you pay them, you try and control it as tightly as you can. But you do have to be concerned about leaks sometimes, not in the usual, in the ultra high profile.
And I would consider this as high profile as it gets.
Yeah, that seems like it's a bit of an overreach to charge this as a racketeering case. And I'm sure that they got feedback from some jurors that, you know, that seemed to be a little bit too aggressive because racketeering is usually reserved for the mafia, gangs or whatever, stuff like that, real criminal organizations.
I don't think anybody considers his record label a criminal organization per se. Um, So I think that could be an overreach. But look, I think the problem in this case is that you might be able to successfully defend against one or two of the alleged victims. But I think the volume of evidence here from what I've seen in the indictment and what I expect is going to be really tough.
to say that everybody consented, nobody was forced or everybody's lying and everybody's just trying to make a buck here and everybody has civil lawsuits and they're just trying to get back at him because he maybe promised them help in their careers and he didn't follow through. To say that over and over and over again is going to be challenging.
Yeah, I mean, everybody, you know, I'm sure a lot of people have seen that. And I think he's already apologized for that. So they're really going to own that. There's really no excuse for that. But they're going to say, you know, that one episode doesn't make him a racketeer. And they're going to ask this in voir dire for sure in jury selection.
They're going to say, look, even if you saw that video, do you still think you can evaluate the evidence fairly? Or did seeing that video give you such bad feelings about him that you think you're just going to be thinking about that video the whole time and you're not going to be able to put it out of your mind and you're already so turned off to him?
that you're not going to be able to sit and judge him fairly. And some people are going to say, yeah, look, there are some people that want no part of this, right? I talked about stealth jurors, but I think a lot of people are going to be running for the exits because some people don't really want to hear about all this. And if they saw that video, they don't want to see more videos like this.
Like people just don't need this in their lives. So you're going to have a lot of people who are going to want to get out. And so they'll say, yeah, I saw that video. You know, after I saw that video, I never could look at him the same way again. So they'll definitely be leaving. And also keep in mind, this trial is probably going to go on for a long time.
I don't know what the estimated length is, but certainly several weeks. People have lives. People have, you know, jobs if they get paid hourly. if they have child care issues, if they have adult care issues, you know, whatever it is. So I think that's why, not I think, I know that's why the court is summoning so many jurors, because it expects to lose a lot of people to what we call hardship.
So what's going to happen is the last week in April, they're going to have jurors come to the courthouse and fill out written questionnaire. That process is going to take two or three days for enough jurors to fill out those questionnaires. So I expect the questionnaire will be probably... 25 to 30 pages of questions. And it's going to ask, first and foremost, it's going to ask about hardship.
So it's going to ask things like, first, do you understand English? Because not everybody does. Will you be able to follow the evidence in this trial? Are there any appointments that you have coming up that you can't move? Those people will be excused. Then it's going to ask about financial hardships.
If you are an hourly worker or you're self-employed and sitting there for three weeks is going to make you not be able to pay your rent, the court isn't going to force you to sit there if those are your personal circumstances or if you have child care issues or if you have a sick relative at home. The court's not going to make those people stay there.
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