Rep. Morgan Griffith
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Well, it's bewildering to all of us. And, you know, there's just so many different things. And so we put in a number of bills. But when you look at all the things that the NIH was supposed to do through NIAID, that would be Dr. Fauci's agency, National... infectious disease, allergies and infectious disease department under Francis Collins at the time at the NIH.
Well, it's bewildering to all of us. And, you know, there's just so many different things. And so we put in a number of bills. But when you look at all the things that the NIH was supposed to do through NIAID, that would be Dr. Fauci's agency, National... infectious disease, allergies and infectious disease department under Francis Collins at the time at the NIH.
They were doing all this research, spending millions of dollars with EcoHealth Alliance, 800,000 of that, according to their own data, went to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And we didn't get the documents we paid for. It's that simple. We didn't get the information we paid for. And isn't it interesting that one of the reports we didn't get was from September of 2019.
They were doing all this research, spending millions of dollars with EcoHealth Alliance, 800,000 of that, according to their own data, went to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And we didn't get the documents we paid for. It's that simple. We didn't get the information we paid for. And isn't it interesting that one of the reports we didn't get was from September of 2019.
And eventually, EcoHealth would provide us with some of the data, or their report at least. They didn't have the Chinese data, but they gave us their report. But they had doctored some of it, as it turned out. Now, that was the evidence that I believe came out in committee. We had two different transcribed interviews with them. We had transcribed interviews with Dr. Fauci.
And eventually, EcoHealth would provide us with some of the data, or their report at least. They didn't have the Chinese data, but they gave us their report. But they had doctored some of it, as it turned out. Now, that was the evidence that I believe came out in committee. We had two different transcribed interviews with them. We had transcribed interviews with Dr. Fauci.
But EcoHealth Alliance was not... straightforward with the NIH. But NIH knew they weren't getting the documents they were supposed to get, knew or should have known, which is where some of these bills come from. I mean, Chip Roy and I are carrying a bill to break up NIAID into three component parts, infectious diseases, allergies, and immunological diseases, because they're different. And
But EcoHealth Alliance was not... straightforward with the NIH. But NIH knew they weren't getting the documents they were supposed to get, knew or should have known, which is where some of these bills come from. I mean, Chip Roy and I are carrying a bill to break up NIAID into three component parts, infectious diseases, allergies, and immunological diseases, because they're different. And
Sometimes they overlap. I'm not going to say they don't occasionally overlap, but there's also a lot of differences.
Sometimes they overlap. I'm not going to say they don't occasionally overlap, but there's also a lot of differences.
Infectious diseases and allergies are totally different.
Infectious diseases and allergies are totally different.
First off, I think that both Dr. Francis Collins and Dr. Fauci were pushing the envelope on gain of function. Now, I will tell you that my good friend, Senator Paul and Fauci got into a lot of fights. And sometimes I thought they were talking past each other because you can have your standard gain of function, which is breeding a Labrador retriever with a poodle and coming up with a Labradoodle.
First off, I think that both Dr. Francis Collins and Dr. Fauci were pushing the envelope on gain of function. Now, I will tell you that my good friend, Senator Paul and Fauci got into a lot of fights. And sometimes I thought they were talking past each other because you can have your standard gain of function, which is breeding a Labrador retriever with a poodle and coming up with a Labradoodle.
That's technically gain of function. And yet what we really are concerned about is gain of function where there's a risk to human health. And I don't think they pay close enough attention to the grants they gave to EcoHealth Alliance, both in the beginning.
That's technically gain of function. And yet what we really are concerned about is gain of function where there's a risk to human health. And I don't think they pay close enough attention to the grants they gave to EcoHealth Alliance, both in the beginning.
The mindset is that they fear that there will be a natural mutation. They fear that desperately. And so they want to be in advance of the natural mutation. So they start studying these infectious diseases. And then somewhere along the way- It's not biowarfare.
The mindset is that they fear that there will be a natural mutation. They fear that desperately. And so they want to be in advance of the natural mutation. So they start studying these infectious diseases. And then somewhere along the way- It's not biowarfare.