Retired Army Colonel John Mills
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Mar 2025
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Well, I don't attach the word gate to it. I was one of the key people who had to deal with Hillary Clinton. And it wasn't just Hillary. It was a pervasive, intentional crime.
criminal rico effort by the entire obama team obama biden team to evade the government records act and use their personal cell phones and actually when they were doing it uh even there was early instant messaging inside behind the firewall that uh Hey, guess what? We weren't capturing that as part of the Government Records Act. So, this was intentional and pervasive.
They were intentionally trying to get around the Government Records Act. It was a criminal conspiracy, okay? And as opposed to this, and I'll go into a lot of detail and enumerated elements, but as opposed to this situation where we had a successful operation, some very high level Prattle was exposed by Goldberg. The operation was successful. Everything was after the fact.
I've had to deal with a number of spills or supposed spills. Everything I've seen so far, nothing amounts to a classified spill. So, I reject. This is pure street theater. They, in their attempt to catch up where number 47 and team have run over them and is 100 miles down the road and they're still trying to figure out what happened. They're trying. We got them this time.
Well, if they're going to die on this hill, they need to pace themselves. There's going to be a lot more hills to die on. And this is not it. And, you know, Norm Eisen, was it Norm Eisen? He is the most craven
uh uh lunatic out there he wrote i was at the nsc in 2009 when he wrote the handling of classified information and this is the one he rolled out into 2023 i got him i knew i knew we were going to get trump in 2009 so i wrote that executive order on handling your classified information uh norm you need to read your own executive order it says guess what who is the ultimate arbitrator of classified what is and what isn't classified
According to his own executive order, it's the president.
Well, I mean, I don't mean to be a policy wonk and all those who want to, you know, throw policy on the floor and roll around in it. I mean, but this is, it's the originator. It's the originator. And then you're supposed to have a class. Anytime you have an operation, a program, you're supposed to write a classification guidance manual on what is and what isn't classified.
If you want to do the most unfun, boring thing in the world, it's writing a classification guidance manual. Okay. It's stupid. But you got to do it. And but it's in the end, boiling it down and simply the president. And this one was dealing directly with the president. And President Trump has already says, yep, we could have done better. We're going to do better next time.
It was a successful operation. Whatever got out, got out after the fact. And again, you know, Goldberg is an absolute craven hack who made up a lie about suckers and losers. And he's making this like he has uncovered everything. the greatest conspiracy ever since he helped also work with the Russia hoax. So, I mean, no credibility on this guy.
Everything I've read, yeah, right, doesn't amount to classified information.
Well, of course. And of course they are. And there's already been a follow-on story that it's funny, hasn't really gotten a whole lot of information that somebody has already leaked kind of the personal password lists and things like that for several of the officials. Of course, that's the highest priority for foreign intelligence. I mean, and, you know, do we do it also? All I will say is maybe.
On the scale of, come on, you know from your time in the company that you got to do a risk assessment here and really how bad was this?
Yeah, please don't get me going on NSA approved devices. You've got to be kidding me. You know, yeah, if you want yesterday's product delivered tomorrow, yes, we'll go to NSA approved solutions, okay?
The trend is absolutely use of commercial products, and that's including behind the firewall, including for... Now, again, there's different levels. Unclassified, we still are behind a firewall when you do unclassified. Then the intelligence community rejects this concept of secret, so they just jumped to the top secret and compartmented, but the Department of Defense still calls something secret.
So, we have unclassified networks which are still beyond the firewall, you have secret and then for the super double top secret people pretending that nobody's ever listening to them when everything has been broken into anyway, you got the top secret, okay? So, it's utterly ridiculous and a charade, but the trend is commercial product.
And there's been, well, I believe the DNI and both John Ratcliffe both said this was an approved product. Now, it really is. And NSA, the DNI, which supposedly works for the DNI. Yes, they are essentially the, I think it's NSPD 38. They're essentially in charge of the top secret networks. And they farm out JWICs to the bottom feeders at DIA to manage. But yeah, this was an approved product.
And we used many approved products behind the firewall. And a lot of these commercial solutions are good. The basic concept with cybersecurity, though, is also... You have to presume breach, even at the highest levels of supposedly... Again, I'm not releasing anything classified here. I'm just saying you have to presume breach at all times.
Well, I think this really explains a lot of this into, you know, you want to, you know, yes, it's a political haymaking exercise on people like Schiff and Swalwell, who've been absolute liars. Swalwell, who was sleeping with a foreign agent and still has access to top secret information for some reason. But the...
So, the high-value targeting process was a very successful process used by Stan McChrystal and an interagency JSOC-led team to really, well, actually take that back. Sometimes it was under a DSS and a DSSS to CIA as the lead, but extremely successful process, okay? And he's talked about it in open forums on a number of occasions and he's been asked a number of times.
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