Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Like, really?

What?

But I find that if I go for a run the next day, it is insanely important for my recovery.

It really helps.

And I mean, it's probably a lot of things going on, but I feel like blood flow is one, right?

You're getting all the goodies to your muscle to recover and your tendons and so on.

But the other way to do that would be something that I've definitely talked about a lot on this podcast and I know that you're a fan of.

which is deliberate heat exposure through sauna or hot tub, where you're also increasing blood flow.

I mean, it's sort of mimicking moderate intensity cardiovascular exercise.

So I wanted to get your thoughts on, first of all, using temperature, both hot and then on the opposite end of that would be cold, which causes vasoconstriction.

Combining the two, how you think about using that for...

healing, recovery, and then we can talk about growth hormone too, because I want to bring up something as well.

Yeah, I also love how you talked about your brain and doing the hard things too.

We're also training our brain, right?

Right.

Yeah.

Well, I wanted to bring up growth hormone because, one, I want to get your input on what I'm going to say, but also because there's not a lot of research on this.

There's like –

independent research in one area and in the other, and you kind of have to connect the dots, right?

Which isn't always great, but it's a start.