Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So they're doing the same aerobic walking exercise in either a natural setting or an urban environment.

And it's that only in the natural setting that people are having this really profound antidepressant effect.

It's affecting their brain, their mood, their mental health, which is at the core of a lot of our problems as well, health problems included.

So I guess where I was going with that is I do like this idea of people kind of paying more attention to how much time they're spending outside.

Right.

How many, what is 800 grams of fruits and vegetables look like for like...

It's a good – this is how I like to think about nutrition as well is like what do you need?

What does your body need?

You need to get the fruits and vegetables for the fiber, for the micronutrients.

Yes.

I mean, and the balances of them are really important too, phytochemicals.

Yes.

You need the protein obviously for muscle, for a lot of – I mean, you need protein for everything.

And, you know, the fats come along with that.

But, yeah, I mean, once you like – once you meet those goals and those needs, you're –

Everything else is easy.

You don't have to worry about it.

You're not eating the refined sugar.

Why?

Because you don't need it.