Rich Lowry

Yeah.

Yeah.

So he likes the idea of gaining assets and benefiting from any transaction.

So I'm not a huge fan of this in that sense.

The oil in Venezuela is for the Venezuelans.

If we're going to help them develop it and have American companies there investing for the good of Venezuelans and our companies are going to benefit too, that's fine.

And maybe that's ultimately what would happen.

But the way he presents it, I think,

counterproductive.

The same thing with running Venezuela.

We're not running Venezuela, right?

You have the vice president running Venezuela, and we're hoping to coerce her into doing what we want.

And I think we'll probably have some success with that, at least in the short or medium term.

But we're not running Venezuela.

And usually when you're not running a country, you don't go out of your way to say you're running the country.

But Trump, again, he likes his name on stuff.

Marco's running everything.

Panama is a pretty good analog, but even compared to Panama, this is more minimalist because we go in on the ground for weeks with troops in Panama.

We already had an extensive troop presence there already because of the canal, obviously, and we swear in the new president after we grabbed Noriega on a U.S.

military basis.