Rich Roll

Yeah, I mean, I don't have the whole rundown, but it's a whole battery of things like that.

Yes.

Well, that's true of all of these things.

And recovery is training.

So anything that's going to enhance your recovery pharmacologically is a training enhancement.

Because if you can recover quickly, you can train harder, more consistently without getting sick or overtraining.

And the harder you can push yourself

the more consistently, then you're gonna realize gains.

So you could take a substance, it blows your muscles up, but in all of these situations, you still have to train.

It doesn't obviate training.

And I think we've seen that these aren't miracles.

You know what I mean?

Like otherwise, like every world record would have been broken.

Right, right.

And so you can have two perspectives on this.

Either you can say, well, these performance enhancing drugs, maybe they're not like all that, you know, compared to what I thought.

Or-

the argument that a lot of people are making is, well, this just proves that everybody at the Olympics is using them.

Otherwise they're already using them.

Otherwise like all these world records would have been broken.