Richard Dolan

Peripherally, Kolaris, I'm making, I'm getting it wrong.

He did Virginia, which was much needed.

Yeah, absolutely.

I sell it on The Book is Available.

an expensive hardcover a uh slightly less expensive paperback a very affordable ebook and a very affordable audio book so the hardcover is a bit pricey mainly because i wanted those image those illustrations those outstanding illustrations by alan levine to really look their best

It deserves it.

And so it's a little more pricey, but I really think it's a book that will stand the test of time.

The paperback is, I think, $39 US.

It's because of the color printing as well.

The e-book is cheap.

The audio book is pretty cheap.

And yeah, that's Amazon's definitely the best place to get them.

Well, personally, I enjoy coming on here with you, Andy.

I enjoy our conversations and, um,

And I really, I like your approach to this phenomenon very much as well.

So I think we always have good conversations.

I think they're watching us very carefully and they are adapting as they need to because we're not the same society that we were in 1947.

They appear to be engaged in monitoring.

They appear to be engaged in approaching for a certain period of time.

They engage in what I've come to call data denial.