Richard Gadd

Thank you.

That was a lovely introduction.

I appreciate that.

Well, it's interesting because the manosphere kind of was a word that I came across about three months ago.

And I actually wrote the script back in 2019.

I wrote a kind of pilot script kind of exploring, I guess, men, male violence.

But I didn't really set out with any social political aim.

I never really do in my work.

I always just try and capture something that I believe to be hopefully interesting and human all at once.

And so it's about expression.

It's about vulnerability.

It's about the difficulty of male relationships and the dangers of repression.

Well, I thought the most interesting thing is you do take two archetypes of... I don't like these words because these words are subjective.

But if you take an alpha male and a beta male, even though I think everyone's idea of an alpha and a beta is very different, you know, person to person.

If you take the stereotypical alpha and beta and you put them in a two-shot opposite each other, you know, one's kind of muscly and...

you know, terrifying looking and the others kind of well-dressed up and timid.

And you start to kind of deconstruct that from there.

I thought that was an interesting starting point.

But I like to think as the show progresses, the boxes in which we meet them in become a bit more blurred and a bit more complicated.

Well, I think you've hit the nail on the head there with this kind of offering.