Richard Grannon

That's what the public can look out for.

I mean... It's a strong term.

Yeah, it's a stretch, but it's not without validity because the public ends up being exploited, for sure, isolated, ignored, misused, abused, and it's all in service of this fantasy, this narcissistic fantasy.

So, yeah, you could, you can...

It wouldn't wash with like a psychotherapist, but in terms of political analysis, using psychology for political analysis, yeah, it's meaningful to say that the public are being narcissistically abused by people who are delusional, who don't care about them.

But they'll tell them, we love you.

We are kind.

We are empathy.

We are compassion.

We absolutely really care about you and love you.

That's what their words are saying, but their actions are, we hate you.

You're useless, you're worthless, you're meaningless.

You're to be used and cast aside.

And I think a lot of the members of the public do feel that.

They feel exploited and they feel cast aside.

They feel like their lived experience is being disregarded and ignored.

So in order for narcissistic personality disorder to manifest in a human being, there does have to be trauma.

There needs to be helplessness.

There needs to be hopelessness.

I think that's the birthplace of narcissistic personality disorder in an individual, in a child.