Richard Grannon

An agenda and fear.

There's just... I think for people who haven't been to the UK, they don't realise what an atmosphere of fear there is here because the consequences for speaking out can be really, really awful.

I think if that goes by the wayside and we're not fighting for that, what should we be fighting for?

That's where people come from.

People come from families.

You know, responsible adults are born of families and the more coherence and the more cohesion there is within the family unit, then the better the people will be and the better their cohesion across the entire nation would be.

So there I would probably join you in the conspiracy theory type of thinking that, look, if I wanted to destroy a country from the inside out, I'd start with the family unit first.

Yes.

I'd break that up first.

And then we're not fighting for each other.

There is no sense of tribe.

There is no sense of purpose.

There is no sense of meaning.

And it's a terrible shame to see the way in which this lack of cohesion and the fractionation seems to be worsening all the time.

Families break apart, they break into, they splinter into groups, people become more isolated.

And yes, it can very often be because of narcissistic drives that push people apart, hyper-competitiveness, envy, aggression, interpersonal aggression, spikes, delusion, projection,

And yeah, families break up.

It's really, really sad to see.

It could be that.

There is an example of a family that I know.