Richard Hasen

He's now Kansas' Attorney General.

He tried to prove that non-citizen voting was a big problem in the elections.

He said that the amount of fraud in the elections was the tip of the iceberg.

And when the federal district court judge issued her ruling, and she was, I believe, a George H.W.

Bush appointee, she said, there is no iceberg.

There is only an icicle, and it's made up mostly of administrative error.

We know the amount of non-citizen voting in the United States is trivial compared to the disenfranchising effects of documentary proof of citizenship laws.

Yet that's the very law that the SAVE Act, which has passed the House and is pending in the Senate, would impose nationally in the United States.

I thought it was outrageous, the idea that you would condition something related to immigration enforcement, law enforcement, on this wish list to get the voting rolls.

There's no real connection to it.

It struck me as a form of extortion.

It had a kind of mafia feel to it, you know, that if you don't give us what we want, we're going to continue to hurt you and your citizens.

I just think...

The two issues have no connection to one another, and the idea that she would bring it up as a potential quid pro quo is just not worthy of the Department of Justice or what we would expect in an attorney general.

Well, so there's two things, right?

One is what you have to show at the polling place.

And what the Save America Act would do is...

allow for a very narrow set of IDs that would be allowed.

So for example, it would exclude student identifications, which of course is something that many students who are in college who don't drive, that would be their primary form of identification.

But also,