Richard Osman

But as I say, he's now into that wellness industry.

And he's, you know, there've been also, you know, various kind of, um,

Complaints upheld against him.

He would advertise Huel and he would advertise Zoe, which is that medical app, and not mention that he was financially involved in both of those companies, that he was.

But I think that if you look at where he came from, I think it drives people insane.

And by the way, all of this is caveated with the fact that, you know me, I always give people the benefit of the doubt.

unless I know for a fact.

I mean, I just can't help myself.

That's how I've always been, and it's usually served me well.

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

I've met him.

I've been on this podcast.

We'll talk about that later.

It's weird because you listen to it a lot.

So Stephen Bartlett, born in Gaboran, grew up in Plymouth, I think, but low-income household, goes up to Manchester Metropolitan University, leaves after a term.

In 2014, sets up a company called The Social Chain with a guy called Don McGregor, who Don McGregor was sort of the...

the kind of stayed sensible one, and Stephen Bartlett was the salesperson.

And Social Chain was one of those companies, if you think back to 2014, all the big companies in the world understood how they did their business but didn't really understand digital.

And what Stephen Bartlett and Don McGregor did is said, look, here's a way that you can connect to a completely new audience.

And, you know, it wasn't rocket science.