Richard Osman

Yeah, and he really does invest and he really, really gets involved.

You know, he is really good at business.

You know, perhaps he wasn't as good at business as he hinted at the very beginning of his career, but he has caught up and now he is, which is half the game.

In the world of podcasting,

It is sort of Wild West.

There is no off-com.

You can do what you want.

There's things like, you know, when he's advertising Huel and Zoe, where he was

you know, caught out and there was an apology, it wasn't done again.

But in terms of the content you do, in terms of what you talk about, you are free to do it.

Now, Dragon's Den, if we've learned anything from working, you know, from people who work at the BBC for the last 10 years, if there's a minor, minor issue, any sort of tiny issue that might come up, then the BBC get in enormous trouble.

I would have thought this is, and I love him on Dragon's Den, by the way, and I love Dragon's Den.

I love that show.

I really, really do.

It feels like an accident waiting to happen.

I mean, it really feels like an accident.

I mean, don't you think?

It's been about two weeks.

You know, that feels like a difficult thing, to ride both of those horses, to be on the BBC where everything has to be squeaky clean and any newspaper will pick up on anything that happens, and to run an enormous podcast that interviews controversial people on the edge of...

intellectual thought as we know it at the moment and on the edge of health thinking as we know it at the moment both of those things you are allowed to do you're allowed to do Dragon's Den and you are allowed to do a podcast that pushes the boundaries of what we think about things