Richard Osman

And I should say that Flight Studio, who is a production company, they said the Diary of a CEO is an open-minded, long-form conversation with individuals identified for their distinguished and eminent career, that's like me, and or consequential life experience.

They heard a range of voices, not just those Stephen and the Diary of a CEO team necessarily agree with.

But, you know, everyone's…

laid into him, you know, they called him a grifter, they call, you know, they call his world an empire of bluff.

So I think that, you know, he finds himself, you know, the more money he's had, the wider that podcast goes, he does find himself in an interesting new world.

That's for sure.

And, you know, he's had issues on Dragon's Den as well with, with

some sort of ear seeds that were supposed to cure diseases, which they didn't do.

Yes, like little seeds that you put in your ear that I forget what it was they cured.

It turns out they didn't.

No.

So it doesn't matter what it was that they cured because they didn't.

Right.

You know, I could say anything.

because they didn't cure anything at all.

So he found himself in a bit of trouble with that.

And people always say, oh, they never invest on Dragon's Den.

He's invested over £3 million on that show in like 54 different things.

They really do invest on that.

And they really do invest, yes.