Inside Big Brother: Nasty Nick (Ep 1)
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Dear one in the rest is entertainment studio one thirty three PM Marina Hyde is talking to former housemate Kate Lawler and television executive Tim Hinks about the history of Big Brother.
Hello members and welcome to this bonus episode series of The Rest is Entertainment with me, Marina Hyde. And I'm so pleased to say that to discuss the whole inside story of Big Brother with me today, I have Tim Hinks, former president of Ender Mall and who now runs Expectation and knows where all the bodies are buried. Kate Lawler. Presenter, podcaster and winner of season three of Big Brother. I would love to know if there's anyone better to discuss this with, but I can tell you there is not a better lineup and I am totally excited to be here. Very
happy to be here. Thanks
for
having us.
Can I do a tiny bit of background on Big Brother? So it it started in the Netherlands in 1999. It was like an instant hit. Everyone loved it. Now, 700 series of Big Brother have aired around the world. In 70 territories, there have been 36,000 episodes. My God. And since January 2004, not one day around the world has gone by without a new episode being broadcast somewhere. It totally changed the landscape of television. And I definitely think society, politics, all sorts of things I think it's like one of the most influential things. Of all time. The guy who is credited with creating it is a guy called John Damole, sometimes also known as the King of Trash TV.
You said it, I didn't.
Yeah, no, I know. Uh but he did lots of other shows, right? He did Fear Factor, Deal or No Deal, The Voice. Yeah.
I didn't know this.
So he yeah, he he had a company called Endemol, which was a combination of his name, Mol, as you say Demol, and a guy called Yup van Ender, who was a theatre impresario. And together their names went were formed this company, which does sound like an ointment you find at boots, um in the foot care section. But Endemol was this Dutch company and they started buying other companies around the world. One of the companies they bought was the company I was, I was about sort of seven years old at this point. And they bought this company called Basil Productions, which was an independent television producer. And I remember the day that it was announced that Endemol, this company we'd never heard of from I had heard of Holland, but basically we hadn't heard of this company.
And they bought us, and we were making really uncool so if you go back to the 90s, there was like loads of cool telly, like The Big Breakfast and The Word, and you know, Chris Evans and all that. And then there was quite a lot of uncool stuff, and we We did that at Basel Production. Yeah. We did Ready Steady Cook. No, that's not on court. No, that's not on cook. No, I mean I'm sorry but it's not in
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