Richard Osman

I mean, don't you think?

It's been about two weeks.

You know, that feels like a difficult thing, to ride both of those horses, to be on the BBC where everything has to be squeaky clean and any newspaper will pick up on anything that happens, and to run an enormous podcast that interviews controversial people on the edge of...

intellectual thought as we know it at the moment and on the edge of health thinking as we know it at the moment both of those things you are allowed to do you're allowed to do Dragon's Den and you are allowed to do a podcast that pushes the boundaries of what we think about things

it feels like at some point that might become an issue.

I find that dual carriageway that he's on quite an interesting one.

Yeah.

But listen, he's an incredible self-publicist, and I don't say that as a criticism because, you know, that's essentially the career for so many people these days.

When I went to do his podcast, it was on the day of the Queen's funeral, and I don't drive, so they sent a car to pick me up

And normally if a car comes to pick you up, it's a Prius.

In this, it was Stephen Bartlett's own people carrier that was entirely tricked out.

Instead of a thing between you and the driver, there was like a massive screen, the whole width of the car.

Yeah, yeah.

All the seats were a cream leather and monogrammed in black SB.

So you kind of think, I sort of admire it.

Because you just, you know, I mean, I'm just thinking I wouldn't pay for that if it was my if it was my I wouldn't do it.

But but it's it's sort of commitment to the bit.

But then but the other side of it, we put the screen down because I wanted to just chat to his driver.

It was lovely called Smiley.

And Smiley said he said I used to work in retail.