Richard Osman

He said in about five years ago.

He said, you know, all went wrong and I thought, right, I'm going to be an Uber driver.

So Smiley gets a job as an Uber driver.

He said, my first ever job, my first ever job, I get this thing saying someone three minutes around the corner needs to be taken 15 minutes away.

My first ever job, I was quite nervous.

Passenger gets in, it's Stephen Bartlett.

He said, at the end of the journey, 15 minutes later, he said, would you like to work for me?

And he said, and I've been his driver ever since.

So, you know, and funny enough, Smiley and I, because he dropped me back off at home as well, and we watched the Queen's funeral procession together because it was just at the end of my road.

Oh, really?

No, no, we had a little wander down and watched the funeral procession.

So I watched the Queen's funeral procession with Stephen Bartlett's driver.

Is there a podcast in that?

So, and as I say, when I met him, I sensed he was looking for something.

You know, he's in his 20s, of course, he's looking for something.

And I was happy to talk to him.

But, you know, he now occupies a very interesting place in our culture.

And this booze thing, I know we're talking a lot about Stephen Butler.

I really want to talk about this optimisation culture.

No, of course not.