Richard Spivey
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79 appearances
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first heard Feb 2025
last heard Feb 2025
Richard Spivey’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Once we found out about it, they started talking to his friends about it. They were like, well, yeah, he told me that he thinks he's in love with her. Not just a one night fling thing. I mean, this was a rather developed relationship that they had going on.
One of the things that stood out there was that he had a, I think it was a $2 million life insurance policy on her. And it was a policy that was double indemnity. So with something like this, there would have been $4 million available.
A friend of Michelle's, who was an attorney, I think she had kind of set this whole thing up. And the whole time what she was doing, she said she was telling Michelle and telling him, this is really excessive. You don't need this much money at your age, etc. With half this, you're going to have enough money to pay off the house and all these things if something was to happen to her.
But this is like an excessive amount of money.
Like I said, they were big, big defenders of his. They did not believe he was involved in any way, shape, or form. And then as they started laying out some of the facts, et cetera, they were devastated.
If I can be completely honest, we so often talk about the public having the CSI effect. And I think law enforcement officers and investigators at times are kind of guilty of the same thing. We're thinking that, you know, oh, we're going to get a report back any day that's going to be the slam dunk and he did it and that's it. And, you know, it's not always the case.
Sometimes it's just a lot more involved in that. Even when you have good crime scene evidence, you need more than that a lot of times to go along with it.
But they had a very tight wire they had to walk because he had custody of the daughter. I think one time it was even suggested that if they wanted to keep seeing her, that they needed to make a public statement in support of him.
There was an indictment handed down and we had people already on the way from our SWAT team who were headed up that way. But he ended up getting in a car and going somewhere and just to be safe, they went ahead and arrested him in the vehicle and then transferred him over to our custody in Black Mountain and brought him down.
He sat in jail maybe almost a year, I think, before we actually went to trial. It was actually quite a while. So we were still monitoring phone calls and things like that that were coming from the jail. And he just never talked about the case.
They did put on a defense and actually they put Jason on the stand. He, of course, talked about how much he loved his wife and got emotional on the stand and everything else. But I mean, that was the first time we'd ever heard him tell anything about his story or anything whatsoever.
I went into the trial expecting a conviction, but prepared for a not guilty, you know, like you do for all trials because anything can happen. This caught me totally off guard because, I mean, we've been working this case for so long. In some respects, I was like, finally, there's going to be a conclusion one way or the other. We're going to be done with this.
I think the fact that we had been working on this case for so long and knew it so well, I almost wondered if there wasn't maybe a perception of like, everybody already knows all of this. We're just restating what everybody knows.
She was at the daycare that day, and they were playing with a little dollhouse that has several dolls in it or whatever. She took one of the dolls and put the doll on a little toy bed. And then took another larger doll and started like beating the doll that was on the bed and then put it on the floor of the little doll house.
And the lady just thought, is she acting out something she saw or is it just a coincidence? But it really stood out to her because of the situation with her mom and the belief that, you know, her having been in the house when it happened.
When it came to the second trial, I think things were a lot more background, a lot more emphasis on certain pieces of evidence. Plus, we also had his statement from the first trial. So we were able to pick apart his testimony that he'd given in the original trial.
My theory is that I think the married life, the family, it was all really tying him down. He wanted more of a bachelor, fun life, go out, do what he wants to, when he wants to, and not have to answer to anyone. And to some extent, he kind of had that until plans were being made for his wife's mother to move in.
And I just think that he saw that any freedom that he kind of did have to go out and work With his extracurricular activities, he saw that that was getting ready to come to an end. And then as a little bonus, he also would be able to finance kind of a fun lifestyle from the insurance.
It may have been the last question asked of me on the stand in the second trial. Howard Cummings asked me, he says, has Jason Young ever called you to ask you the status of this case? And I'm like, no, sir, he has not. He had no interest or at least no desire to talk to any of us about anything, including his daughter and her well-being concerning the case.
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