Richard

You know, those institutions of sort of quiet sociability in Australia, they've been disappearing over the last 20, 30 years or so.

They seem to have all these benefits that aren't always immediately obvious for people in their lives.

Yeah, we had a great friendship after that.

Like you say, the next step was to conquer the world of ACT squash.

Tell me how far you were able to get with that.

So just talking to you, it seems like two of the key factors in your recovery was one was to take your medication regularly.

Second was the kind of quiet sociability of the bolo.

What other factors do you want to attribute to your recovery plan?

Given that you seem to get some relief from the bush and from the coast, do you take them out there as well?

Tell me a bit about the place where a lot of your clients live, a place called Home in Queanbeyan.

I've had people on the program years ago telling me stories of... This has happened a few times now, of how schizophrenia is dealt with in traditional societies, in places like Papua New Guinea and in the South Pacific.

And it's often given spiritual causes, as you would expect.

But the way such societies often...

help people, treat people, deal with people who are going through one of these episodes.

It's to treat them like it's something, first of all, that can happen to absolutely anyone in the village.

It's seen as that for a start.

You're not a kind of a different category of person as a result of that.

People are often sequestered in a hut for however many months, but people are coming to them all the time to talk to them and bring them food and to just wait out.

Like it's some kind of long...

I don't know, like the flu or something.