Richard

Where was the boat aiming to land?

Did you just say there was a one in 100 year storm that hit your boat?

Do you remember that storm?

So when you track down those people who were your fellow passengers, what did they tell you about that storm?

Do you remember seeing that boat?

The way you say it does sound like a Bible passage.

It sounds like some people lost in the wilderness.

Yeah.

So you were found, this rescue boat that found you, it was a boat from Médecins du Monde, Doctors of the World.

Who are Doctors of the World?

Are they like Médecins Sans Frontières?

Like I say, when I saw that footage of the Médecins du Monde boat pulling up against your boat in, what's this, 1982, everyone's sort of lying on the deck there on that boat, that overcrowded boat.

The grown-ups look catatonic.

They look terrible.

They're in terrible shape.

Do you have any idea what that state of mind is like?

I can't read it very well.

I've never been in a situation as dire as that.

What's going on there, do you think?

Hang on, in the moment of rescue, you feel that despair or the moment before it?