Rick Edwards

There was a lot going on.

But even that, it was just like, they get it.

Those players get it, you know.

So it was a beautiful moment.

And I think that was the turning point.

England have won a penalty shootout at a World Cup.

Glory, glory be.

And then you just had that whole thing where, similar to, I think, Italia 90, where there are certain sort of images that really stay.

I mean, this is obviously before you were born so long, but you probably know all the images anyway.

Gazza crying being the most obvious one.

And then you have Harry Maguire on that unicorn image.

on that inflatable unicorn.

And you have Pickford with his get your rave on, get the rave on boots.

And all of this stuff, it just sort of fed into this idea that these are our guys and we really like them.

Yeah, because there was a whole generation of players that just, they were titans of the game.

But like you were saying earlier, there was just no relatability to them.

They were just the stiffest, like...

unsort of touchable, unrelatable group of players.

It wasn't seen as important, I don't think.

No.