Rick Rubin
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It doesn't have to be, look at me.
Just the touch, the feel, the tone is miraculous.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
I wouldn't say I'm there.
Right.
But I'm always striving.
Always.
Anything I can do to get closer, I'll do.
Or change anything.
I would say dedication to the craft, whatever their craft is, dedicating themselves to it, taking it very seriously.
and being free to play in it.
You know, like taking it seriously at the time when it warrants being taken seriously and having fun and being free in a play way to allow the thing that's worthy of being taken seriously to appear.
Yeah.
Well, the play always is where it starts.
It starts in this playful way where nothing is serious and there are no stakes.
And then through that, something appears.
And then in order to get that into condition to share, there's a grueling effort.
Yeah, take that seriously.
And sometimes you do a grueling effort and then you realize, oh, that thing that happened the first day, that's the best version of it.