Rick Spence
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first heard Oct 2024
last heard Oct 2024
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That's always worth looking at. I didn't find much correspondence in any of those. In one of the killings, I think the one in Lake Berryessa, he does appear in this kind of weird hooded costume. You know, he's got his symbol, the sort of compass or aiming rectical, you know, circle symbol. With a cross through it, it can mean a variety of things.
He used guns and he used knives, but he certainly had a thing for couples, except in the last of the killings, which is of a cab driver in downtown San Francisco, who he shoots in full view of witnesses, which is completely atypical.
Yeah, he doesn't, he's not particularly thorough about it. He seems to have had much more, more of the violence seems to be directed at the females than the males.
There is a composite drawing of his face, which I think is based upon the Stein killing, the cab driver killing, where there were people who saw him or who claimed that they saw him. The other ones were all when it was fairly dark. I'm not sure that anyone else got a look at his face. The one that occurred in the daylight at Berryessa, he was wearing a mask.
So there's something in common initially in the targeting of victims, which doesn't in the last case. Then after that, there's just the different cases of where there's a pretty good case to be made of a woman who claims, I think she was, she and her small child were picked up. Her car broke down. She got a flat tire.
She was picked up by this guy who she got a very sort of strange vibe from who eventually just let her go. Well, you know, that might have been the Zodiac.
You're essentially making sacrificial victims and they will be your ghostly servants in the afterlife. Do you think he actually believed that? Who knows? I mean, here's the question. Was he making that up just...
to be scary or is that what his actual that that's what he's saying his motivation is so let's take him at face value rather than trying to wish that into the cornfield that is to to get rid of it let's just take it if he so he's claiming that he's he's killing these people in order to acquire slave servants in the afterlife He will subsequently go on to claim many more victims. I'm not sure, 44?
Eventually he will have, before he just kind of vanishes. One of the really interesting clues to me when I was looking at that case, which I didn't find anybody else that tended to make much of it of, is that it all has to do with this kind of Halloween card that he sends to the press in San Francisco. And it's talking about sort of rope by gun, by fire.
And there's this whole sort of wheel, you know, like the Zodiacs. But what was this drawn from? Where he got this from is from a Tim Holt Western comic book published in 1951. And you see the same thing in the cover. It's Wheel of Fortune, but with different forms of grisly death on it. And all of the things that he mentioned are shown on the cover of this.
So whoever put together that card saw that comic book. Well, that's kind of an interesting clue. So does that mean he's a comic book collector? When would he have? I mean, that is one. And also before he got the idea from. So he's incorporating these things from the.
Then there are, of course, his codes, which people have, you know, which aren't all that difficult to decipher, probably because they weren't meant to be. The other thing that you find often with serial or psychopathic killers is they're toying with the press. I mean, this goes all the way back to Jack the Ripper. You know, they get attention.
And then he just disappears.
Why do you think he was never caught? I think they knew who to look for. There's nothing much to go on. I mean, there was a guy who was long a suspect. And then eventually they tested his DNA and found that it didn't match any of the things that they'd found. Again, it goes back to, I'm not even sure that it's one person who's responsible for all of them.
Well, take the Zodiac, and you had his claim that he's collecting souls for the afterlife. There are other things that are occult-ish connected to that. He may have picked some of the killing sites due to their physical location, to their position in a particular place.
If you look at the Son of Sam case, of course, David Berkowitz will on and off claim that he was part of a satanic cult that was carrying out, again, these killings, mostly of couples and young women similar to the Zodiac. and that he had only committed some of them and was witnesses at others. And that has really created the whole idea that, yes, there is this, some kind of
satanic cult, which engages in ritual murders. Then if you go all the way to Florence, you've got murders who go on and off for a long period of time, again, focusing on couples in isolated areas, which Italian prosecutors ultimately tried to connect to some kind of satanic cult, although I'm not sure they ever made a particularly strong case for that.
But that element comes up in all three of them. So you can, with a little imagination, argue that those similarities, that those things should come up in each of those cases in different places, either suggest that, oddly enough, psychopathic criminals are all sort of thinking the same way, or that there is some sort of higher element involved in this, that there's some kind of common inspiration.
Here you go, you come back to something similar we were talking before about do pedophiles exist, do pedophiles, okay, so do, do satanic cults exist? Well, they do. Okay, there was one in my hometown. Apparently quite harmless.
As far as I know, never did anything, you know, but there are people who, you know, robes, here we come again, robes, cut the head off a chicken, naked woman is an altar, you know, you can get off on that, I suppose, if that's your thing. So professed Satanists exist, satanic cults exist, serial killers exist, ritual murders exist. Are those things necessarily connected?
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