Rick Spence
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first heard Oct 2024
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Or the secret societies to infiltrate the intelligence agencies.
Well, it comes down, I give you my definition of secret societies, what they come down to. One is that generally their existence isn't secret. It's what they do is secret. It's what's in the box as opposed to the existence of the box. So one of the most important criterions is that they are self-selecting. You just don't join. They pick you. They decide whether or not you're going to.
They admit you. And oftentimes they will sort of recruit you. Once you have been recruited, you have to pass tests and initiations. And you also have to swear oaths of loyalty. Those are always very, very critical. So, broadly speaking, what entrance into an intelligence organization does, they decide whether you get in. You just don't automatically get the job. You have to pass tests.
A lie detector test, for instance. Field training tests. A whole variety of tests. And then you're sworn to secrecy. You never talk about what you do.
Ever. Never. or there will be dire consequences.
So the method is very much the same. And also this idea of creating a kind of insular group. The organization is us, and everyone else is outside of that. We are guardians of special knowledge. See, this is the type of thing that would generally happen if you questioned whatever any kind of intelligence agency did. Well, we know things that you don't. Why?
Because we're the organization that knows things. We collect information. We know the secrets. We guard the secrets. Therefore, if we tell you, you must believe us.
So I think the question is, what's the most powerful or important secret society? Probably the one you don't know about. One that doesn't advertise its existence. The one which is never known anywhere under its real name. You've got things like the Bohemian Club. You've got the Bilderbergers, which is another sort of, you know, formed in the 1950s.
Largely the creation of a guy by the name of Josef Rettinger. Polish, mysterious, appears out of nowhere, a schemer for years. A man expelled from Britain, France, and the United States at one point or another. Long active in the Mexican labor movement. Okay, okay. Redinger is a mysterious figure. In fact, I think there was even a book written about him called Eminence Gries, Grey Eminence.
The front man for the Bilderbergers was Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, who was at one point a Nazi and then a Dutch freedom fighter. All right, take your pick. But... Rettinger is the moving hand behind the whole thing, and I'll be damned if I can figure out who Rettinger is.
So the idea is that you get influential people in media, business, politics, and you bring them together just to talk, to try to find common answers or common questions. It's all very much sort of Western Europe, Anglo-European. I mean, it's all very closely sort of connected to NATO.
The whole concept of a kind of Atlanticist world, which is essentially the Anglo-American combine combined with Western Europe.
But you've got a bunch of these things.
I mean, the Council on Foreign Relations is very similar to that, and the Bilderbergers. And there's an overlap with the Bohemian Club. And then you've got the Penne Circle or Le Cercle, which is more military, but also linked to the so-called secret Gladio. You know, the idea of the Soviets over around Western Europe, there would be a stay behind organization called Gladio.
There'd be these freedom fighters. So the question I have about that is that how many secret organizations do you need? I mean, why all these separate groups, which often seem to have the same people into them?
Well, I guess on one level, I'm comforted that there's somebody actually making decisions. I mean, what do you want? Do you want chaos or do you want everything kind of rigidly controlled? And I don't put much stock in the idea that there actually is some small group of people running everything because if they were, it would operate more efficiently.
I do think that there are various disparate groups of people who think that they're running things or try to. And that's what concerns me more than anything else. Well, I hate to go back to them again, because if you're bringing up, you go back to the Nazis, they had their whole idea about a new world order and they only had 12 years to do it. Look what a mess they made.
I mean, look at the damage, the physical damage that can be done by an idea inspiring a relatively small group of people controlling a nation, based upon some sort of racial or ideological fantasy that has no real basis in reality and yet guides their actions.
It's this differentiation that I always make, and I would try to get across to students, between always be clear about what you know and what you believe. You don't know many things.
You know your name. You know when you were born.
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