Ricky Leiter

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185 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Apr 2020 last heard Apr 2020

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It's it's really, really hard.

Yeah, I think that I think that's right.

I mean, for a lot of these patients, I I felt comfortable with the medical outcome.

I mean, I think for someone who

has ARDS who is not oxygenating well despite being you know prone and and paralyzed and has been in the ICU for for seven days kind of getting worse.

We have a good sense that CPR would not be medically beneficial for

Yeah.

And I think Eric, you're uh I'll I'll give a shout out to your Twitter thread the other day about prognostication in uh

in COVID, which we we circulated among our group and among some of the ICU clinicians as as well.

It was really helpful.

So thank you for that.

Yeah, so I think, you know, some of the moral distress is is related to the uncertainty, but some of it is just

Is that we are making stronger recommendations earlier in conversations than we normally would.

It doesn't feel like our standard palliative care.

Cadence.

It feels a lot.

more heavy-handed than my typical practices, than all of our typical practices.

And that's what I think has led to a lot of distress among our team.

That's a very eloquent.

Yeah, I think it's been

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