Rima Grace

And how does that spill into like other financial decisions that you make?

I imagine there would be a spillover effect.

Like they feel entitled to that wealth and they want to feel like they are the exception, it sounds like.

Coming up after the break, how betting on everything from elections to natural disasters changes how we relate to each other.

By the way, if this conversation is resonating with you, I'd love to hear about it, even if you don't gamble.

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What do you find yourself spending on when you feel lonely?

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I'm Rima Grace.

And this week, we're getting into the casinofication of our economy.

I'm talking with gambling addiction expert and professor of psychiatry, Timothy Fong, and financial expert, Hannah Horvath.

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Okay, back to my conversation.

So I want to better understand what gambling does to our brains and also where that line is, like from doing it casually to it becoming a problem and an addiction.

So yeah, what does that look like?

What's the difference there?