Rizwan Virk

Like I didn't say what they were.

And then you had this professor from MIT who studies exoplanets.

I won't say her name, but she comes on after me and this is what I heard because I was remote and they were all there.

And she says, that's very disturbing that you were talking about UFOs in an academic setting.

And my father believed in this stuff back in the 80s.

He tried to get me to read some books.

So I gave him a book that said in the 80s that this is all solved.

This is all nonsense.

Like we shouldn't talk about it.

And I believe that is the kind of dogma that is preventing this topic from being taken seriously.

There's a stigma around the subject when, in fact, it represents something that's quite unexplainable right now.

Yeah.

I mean, if you study the history of science, you realize that you get these areas of legitimate science and fringe science.

And sometimes things move from fringe science to legitimate science.

Well, quantum mechanics in general.

Right.

Right.

I mean that's – in my opinion, that's not even out of our current model of reality, right?

Right.

It doesn't take a redefinition of the world as a simulation or time travel or anything really bizarre, right, for an extraterrestrial explanation.