Rizwan Virk

From back in the 70s, 1969, 70, there was the Condon Report.

I'll give you an example.

So I spoke at the University of Toronto last year at an astronomy and space exploration forum.

And the speaker before me was like a NASA biologist talking about exobiology, which is about how plants or whatever might work on different planets.

And then I gave this talk about UFOs from science fiction to legitimate science again, right?

Because what happens with this topic is it goes through these waves where scientists start to take it more seriously.

And then it gets shut down through what I call science by headline, like the Condon Report.

There's been another report recently from Arrow that was basically saying, well, there's nothing weird going on here.

They're just classified programs.

That's it.

We're done.

But Congress isn't buying it because Congress starts talking to people who have seen things behind the scenes, whether in classified programs or elsewhere, that just don't fit the explanation.

Right.

And so what happens is, so I gave this talk and my basic point was that we don't know what these are.

I'm not saying they're alien.

I'm not saying that they're what we call crypto terrestrial.

I'm not saying they're time travelers, although that's an interesting one.

But if you guys who are students are curious about this, you should follow your curiosity because that's how science progresses is when people don't set artificial boundaries or

or have scientific dogma.

And then what happens is, so I gave this talk and that was my main point.