Ro Khanna

This is great.

Here you are at the table.

Go ahead, tell us your take.

Here's my view.

Obviously, it's that kind of extreme rhetoric is...

leading in cases of political violence.

But it's more than that, right?

It's not just the Charlie Kirk assassination or January six or the attack on Pelosi's home.

It's also making us hate each other as Americans.

It's making us incapable of coming together to say, you know what?

I agree with Donald Trump was selling pharmaceutical drugs at a cheap price because that's the direction that Bernie Sanders would go.

Like, we can't we're not able to do that.

Why?

Because we've created such

anger and extremism and tribalism in our politics.

And the reality is right now you're rewarded for it.

If you grab the attention and you show that you've kind of got vengeance on the other side, your poll numbers go up and within your own base, you get more contributions.

I mean, we just need to speak plainly about some of the incentives.

And if the election was in November of 2025, the next presidential election, I think both sides would end up nominating the side that's going to take it to the other one, the own the libs from the Republicans and, you know, fight fire with fire with everything and own the MAGA folks from the Democrats.

I am hoping, I don't know if that's true, I'm hoping that people will see that this is a spiral downwards, that fighting fire with fire leaves ashes for everyone, that's what Emanuel Cleaver says, and that we've gotta find a different way of moving forward.