Ro Khanna

No.

Let's recognize that Donald Trump fundamentally was a symptom of a broken system.

that we are living in something worse than the Gilded Age, that we've got people who don't have healthcare.

I mean, the famous actor from Dawson's Creek who couldn't afford cancer treatment, so now his wife has a GoFundMe page to keep her home.

And we're producing more wealth than ever before.

We can't give everyone health care that a beloved actor can't afford it in this country.

What hope is there for a firefighter or a nurse if they get cancer?

So people want a clear direction.

And then they say, OK, Roe, but why not be pragmatic?

Even if we win and if we don't have 60 votes in the Senate, then how are you going to get things done?

How about we start with what our North Star is?

How about we start with what the society we want to see is?

And we fight like anything to get there.

If I had started out with the attitude, well, we can't get the Epstein files released, Roe, how are we going to get the president to sign it?

How are we going to get the Senate to pass it?

How are you ever going to get the speaker to bring it up?

I wouldn't have started in the first place.

Now, have we gotten the whole files released?

No.

But when you fight, when you make it a tenacious goal, and when you have a North Star, you get progress.