Ro Khanna

And that's where the Democratic Party needs to be.

And I think we would inspire people if we had that.

I had no idea what it was.

They're spending against me, too.

They're not happy.

I don't think they fully get it yet.

It's slowly, I mean, but what you have done and what you're describing, I think is very important because it used to be, I think in Trump's first term, that there were a lot of resist liberals who said, okay, who's gonna put up the fight against Trump and who's not?

And there were people on the kind of centrist lane who said, as long as we fight against Trump, as long as we show that we've got the fight, we're taking him on, it doesn't really matter if we don't say genocide.

It doesn't really matter if we don't tax billionaires.

It doesn't really matter if we don't have national health insurance.

So we don't have to take on these powerful interests.

Why upset the billionaires?

Why upset APEC?

Why upset the private health insurance companies?

Let's just win the vote by showing that we have got

spine and are going after Trump.

And I don't think that strategy works anymore because a lot of the resist liberals have also understood that to really defeat Trumpism, we have to change our society.

That some of the anger that Trump voters had was anger at a broken system.

And if that system stays broken, you're going to continue to have uglier and uglier populism.

And, you know, my anger is not with people who voted with Trump.