Rob Draper

Yeah, and it is also true that certainly these days in a televisual tournament, you get a lot of people watching football who don't normally watch football.

So you don't necessarily understand that it's hard to be... I mean, I'm not trying to defend England's performance against Slovakia and Slovenia in the Euros, but it's not quite the walkover you think it's going to be in Euro 2024.

Give us Manning's great quote, what he concludes, though, because I think that's worthy of airing.

I think that's a test though, isn't it?

Don't make huge pronouncements unless you're going to qualify them.

Does he want a part of it?

We shall find out in part three.

So, but the other group games against Mexico, I mean, to be fair, they're toiling a bit against Mexico, aren't they?

And they're kind of saved by just one of the great Bobby Charlton goals.

So I've got my quick name check for Great England goals that this ranks alongside.

Gazzo, 96.

Bellingham, Euro 2024.

Maybe Platt in 1990.

Oh, Michael Owen against Argentina, yeah.

Is that the top five?

Oh, yeah, that's a good one, isn't it?

Shearer, Sheringham lays him off, doesn't he?

Yeah.

Yeah, but it's not quite so consequential, is it?

There's going to be another good Charlton goal, though.