Rob Nelson

So, um, yeah, that's what we've been targeting.

And of course we're, we're trying to get that down a little bit lower, but, um,

That's where we're at.

You know, we've got a payback period of about six to seven months.

And so that's why when I say we've got healthy unit economics, I'm thinking about that CAC payback period.

Yeah, we're all, let's see, I guess we're not all based here in Utah.

in our Silicon Slopes area that we call it.

We've got about just over 100 people.

And this past year, we opened an office in London.

And so we have maybe eight people in London.

And they're cranking and exceeding targets and doing well.

So that's kind of the team dynamic.

Yeah, maybe 40 between sales and marketing.

You know, probably...

30 between product and engineering.

Yeah, I mean, we never really ran into that.

I think that the market, our space will go through a consolidation, but we're not there yet.

And so we didn't have...

potential buyers.

And if we did, I mean, we're, we're really not that interested.