Rob Ratner

That's the issue.

Yeah, but, like, wasn't – didn't – somebody had let him know that Ortiz knows.

Wasn't it, like, Torrey Hunter?

Yeah, so, like – They went to dinner the night before.

That's the issue is, like, both moments in sports history here have, like, a true backstory to them.

So it's not like they're just, like, a miracle.

Oh, God.

I mean –

the Butler interception did end like the drought of super bowls, but they'd already won.

I got to go with the grand slam.

I got to go with the grand slam because one, just that year being what it was 2013, the marathon, like it was such an impactful year on Boston and,

and just, like, David Ortiz being who he was.

But, like, the Butler interception is close, very close.

But just that year as a whole, and compared to the year prior with the Red Sox in 2012 going into 2013, I mean, it's close, but I got to stay with the Butler.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

Thanks for having me on.

You don't get bored by baseball.

Okay, one thing the game needs is more people like you.

You.