Rob Russo

Well, right now we have distracted, as you said, distracted and in many ways politically diminished Donald Trump.

But does that mean that he could not be dangerous to Canada?

Yes, he could.

And in terms of the argument itself, was it a mistake to be so reliant on the United States?

It was certainly a mistake to put so many of our eggs into that basket.

But I think you could make a pretty valid argument that Canada is prosperous and secure as it is right now because of our relationship with the United States.

And therein lies, I think, the room for debate between Mr. Poilev and Mr. Carney as to which way to go.

There will be a post-Trump period.

The debate is really, is this a permanent rupture or will at some point Americans return to their senses?

And in the meantime...

In the meantime, we have a responsibility as a country to go and increase our trade elsewhere and to begin to assert our own sovereignty through our own defense.

But is that a permanent situation?

I think that's where the nub of the debate is happening between Mr. Poiliev and Mr. Carney.

I'll see you.

Rob?

Many lessons.

First of all, beware anything, any news that's announced late on a Friday.

or uncovered.

In this case, I think it was Rob Benzie at the Star who uncovered it.

But beware anything like that.